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By QatzelOk
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When you're 10 years old, you often doubt the existence of Santa Claus, but you have learned to "go along with it" in order to receive hundreds of dollars worth of gifts. Even if most of these gifts turn out to be relatively useless, money has been spent, and you have been made "passive" throughout the early winter so that your parents can enjoy a bit of peace despite your house-bound condition.

Children learn to "pretend to believe silly lies" in order to receive a reward. (bribe)

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When they get older, these former children are told things like "Arabs are all terrorists" and "My ingroup can save the world."

These are obvious lies, but the Western lie-consumer "goes along with it" in order to enjoy cheap, available resources (especially Arab-country-sourced oil) and so, like the young Santa-doubter, he learns to play along, which re-inforces this lie for the society all around this lie-consumer.

Santa-believers get new toys, Mass media-believers get cheap oil.

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When Guy Debord talks about how humans live in an alternative world because of mass media lies, he is describing the same phenomenon. Humans who have been conditioned to believe lies.

This dynamic has created mass stupidity, and may cause human extinction.
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Another great Western Santa Myth... was Scientific Racism.

wiki wrote:...Scientific racism was common during the period from the 1600s to the end of World War II, and was particularly prominent in European and American academic writings from the mid-19th century through the early-20th century...


This was a myth that stated that many other races were just there to exploit, just like the soil and the other species are "just there to exploit."

This allowed well-organized "race cheerleaders" to make a lot of money, and it allowed their mercenaries to re-invent themselves in a "new land" like the USA, Algeria, or Palestine.

Most people, just like with Santa Claus, simply "went along" with the lies in order to make more money. It's always about the prezzies....

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By QatzelOk
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Every four years, Americans are asked to "write a letter to Santa Claus," - listing all the goodies they are dreaming of. And then, two "presidential" candidates "talk like Santa" for a few months, while their marketing team relentlessly trash the credibility of the other potential Santa.

The letter that voters write includes their wishes for the following year. "Cut taxes," "build more highways" and "kill more Arabs so that gas is cheap" are among the most common gifts that taxpaying children ask for.

In 2016, many Americans put "move the Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem" on their Christmas lists, and Santa Trump crawled down the world's chimney and delivered the goods.

This election, the killing off of the remaining Palestinian population is high on everyone's wishlist, along with abortion and stronger punishments for dead-naming and misgendering, and it's likely that both Santa candidates already have these "gifts" in their bags.

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Who will be the winning Santa in November?
The children wanna know.
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By QatzelOk
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My most vivid Santa-Clause memories... involve watching a lot of TV in suburbia in the late 70s. I was old enough to question Santa in these years, and early winter was marked by the sudden realization that you were locked in a box for five months with nothing to do and no nearby activities.

Having been moved to Suburbia by the same television brainwashing (CBS produced dozens of country-themed sitcoms in the 50s and 60s)... we were now mindlessly bored TV-viewers wasting away for the entire winter.

What did TV do? It exploited this State-Sanctioned Suburban Boredom to sell us board games and toys that promised an escape from boredom and a re-connection with the community we never had in suburbia.



Look how that family is happily working together in the above ad. This is the "Santa Clause" effect.

The lie that "board games can save us" sold billions of dollars in games, and these games did absolutely nothing in preventing suburban drug use, obesity, community disfunction, family breakdown, or any other problem that suburban isolation caused.

And the "Santa" myth... is just a scapegoat ("lack of Santa Clause is the cause of our misery") in order to sell snake oil to damaged people.
Santa Oil.

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The 2024 USA presidential election is over and it looks like Santa Trump won over Santa Harris.

Santa Trump is now carefully reading Myriam Adelsons's wishlist (it's attached to a 100-million-dollar bill) along with Elon Musk's list (112 million $ attached).

How many hundreds of millions of dollars did YOU attach to your Santa-Prez wishlist this year? I hope it was more than 100 million dollars so that you get something under your tree this year.

Most Expensive Christmas Trees in the World

1. The Emirates Palace Hotel Decorated Christmas Tree – USD 11.4 million
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QatzelOk wrote:When you're 10 years old, you often doubt the existence of Santa Claus, but you have learned to "go along with it" in order to receive hundreds of dollars worth of gifts. Even if most of these gifts turn out to be relatively useless, money has been spent, and you have been made "passive" throughout the early winter so that your parents can enjoy a bit of peace despite your house-bound condition.

Children learn to "pretend to believe silly lies" in order to receive a reward. (bribe)

***

When they get older, these former children are told things like "Arabs are all terrorists" and "My ingroup can save the world."

These are obvious lies, but the Western lie-consumer "goes along with it" in order to enjoy cheap, available resources (especially Arab-country-sourced oil) and so, like the young Santa-doubter, he learns to play along, which re-inforces this lie for the society all around this lie-consumer.

Santa-believers get new toys, Mass media-believers get cheap oil.

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When Guy Debord talks about how humans live in an alternative world because of mass media lies, he is describing the same phenomenon. Humans who have been conditioned to believe lies.

This dynamic has created mass stupidity, and may cause human extinction.

Is this any different than the natives sitting around the fire being told by the elders about the powerful spirit-Gods that inhabit the wolves and eagles? Or Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists across the world over millennia being sold nonsense stories? People have been sold lies, whether religion etc, since humans have existed.

Many people, especially those with less education, don't question things, and are conditioned and influenced by others. Certainly Christmas has been corrupted by consumerism.
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QatzelOk wrote:My most vivid Santa-Clause memories... involve watching a lot of TV in suburbia in the late 70s. I was old enough to question Santa in these years, and early winter was marked by the sudden realization that you were locked in a box for five months with nothing to do and no nearby activities.

Having been moved to Suburbia by the same television brainwashing (CBS produced dozens of country-themed sitcoms in the 50s and 60s)... we were now mindlessly bored TV-viewers wasting away for the entire winter.

What did TV do? It exploited this State-Sanctioned Suburban Boredom to sell us board games and toys that promised an escape from boredom and a re-connection with the community we never had in suburbia.


Look how that family is happily working together in the above ad. This is the "Santa Clause" effect.

The lie that "board games can save us" sold billions of dollars in games, and these games did absolutely nothing in preventing suburban drug use, obesity, community disfunction, family breakdown, or any other problem that suburban isolation caused.

You could have gone outside and played in the snow like most kids do. Nobody locked you in any box.
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By QatzelOk
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Unthinking Majority wrote:Is this any different than...

There are obviously myths in all language-based civilizations. But it is important to look at the exact qualities of these myths. For example, a civilization that has a "all foreigners are all evil" mythology... will be very difficult to co-exist beside. What does a "believe lies and you get stuff" mythology is likely to produce? A love of lies that pay off?

You could have gone outside and played in the snow like most kids do. Nobody locked you in any box.

Actually, all North American kids were "locked in boxes" by their suburbanizing parents. Kids have no choice as to where they live with their families, so if their parents "lock them into isolated bungalows," these kids will suffer from isolation.

The mythology of "suburban sitcom happiness" was partially responsible for this "box-locking" of children in the mid-20th Century.

And this "box-locking" also kept kids glued to that creator of commercialy mythology known as TV (today, Internet-Netflix-etc.).
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Rancid wrote:@QatzelOk what are you getting for Christmas?


It's all about "getting things," isn't it.

You should be asking what the new president is "getting for Christmas."

He has been so good to his Santa-Clausian sponsors like the Adelsons.

Their money also created Bibi Claus a few decades ago. And they bought a few mainstream media vehicles to ensure that he became "a hero" on the screens that decide what we think.
By Rancid
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QatzelOk wrote:
It's all about "getting things," isn't it.

You should be asking what the new president is "getting for Christmas."

He has been so good to his Santa-Clausian sponsors like the Adelsons.

Their money also created Bibi Claus a few decades ago. And they bought a few mainstream media vehicles to ensure that he became "a hero" on the screens that decide what we think.


We should be asking these questions.

What i want for Christmas is two things I will never get.

World Peace
A bigger penis
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QatzelOk wrote:Actually, all North American kids were "locked in boxes" by their suburbanizing parents. Kids have no choice as to where they live with their families, so if their parents "lock them into isolated bungalows," these kids will suffer from isolation.

The mythology of "suburban sitcom happiness" was partially responsible for this "box-locking" of children in the mid-20th Century.

And this "box-locking" also kept kids glued to that creator of commercialy mythology known as TV (today, Internet-Netflix-etc.).

Well then those parents are stupid. I went outside and played. Helicopter parents who shelter their children from all harm are toxic. People are now doing this with everything now. Safe spaces and all that nonsense.
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By QatzelOk
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Unthinking Majority wrote:Well then those parents are stupid. I went outside and played...

All kids "go outside and play" at some point in their childhoods.

But for the first 10,000 years of cities, the streets belonged to kids who were playing outside, and they stayed outside as long as they could, and met hundreds of adults and kids in the process ("it takes a village").

Going outside once in a while is not the same. Even prisoners "go outside" occassionally, and they ALSO "play in the yard." THE YARD is where prisoners play, while being surveilled by their prison guards.

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Here are some examples of the Santa Claus lies (giddy promotion of products through mythology) that brainwashed young adults into moving to suburbia in the 50s and 60s:







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And here's a list of popular TV shows in the 1950s when most North Americans still lived either in cities, or on farmsé Car companies are heavily involved from the early days of TV, and suburbia is being promoted as a sitcom place where everyone is smart and happy:

https://www.ranker.com/list/best-50s-sitcoms/ranker-tv
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Rancid wrote:We should be asking these questions.

What i want for Christmas is two things I will never get.

World Peace
A bigger penis


This is my grown up Christmas list . It's a tall order that I doubt I shall ever fully achieve, in my lifetime anyway .

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By QatzelOk
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Deutschmania wrote:This is my grown up Christmas list...

It's interesting that you think that fully grown adults should be making lists to send off the North Pole so that Mrs. Claus can whip her elves into making something for you... for free.

There seems to be an (intentional) misunderstanding of how consumerism works in this conceptual framework of "Christmas lists for adults."

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