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I think most on the more progressive side of Western politics have accepted at this point that there is a high likelihood that Donald Trump will not take no for an answer come November. Maybe the Democrat-controlled areas will use mail-in ballots and the GOP will declare all mail-in votes invalid, who knows. Whether the president wins the election or not, there is definitely the potential for the federal Republican Party to forego republicanism altogether in favour of establishing a de-facto dictatorship and deifying their not-so-ironic god-emperor Donald Trump.

There has, of course been a significant upsurge in general 'leftist' activity and radicalisation as of late. Can this be effectively channeled into some kind of revolutionary movement? Surely, if ever an opportunity for one presented itself, it would be this.
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Wellsy wrote:What kind of revolution? Seems at most to be a social movement on an issue rather than a sweeping call for change of the economy. Be as radical as the past political struggles that sought to exert influence on the government.


I suppose, but the United States seems more socially divided, at more intersections, than it has been at any point since the civil war. I suspect you are correct that any kind of sweeping economic shift is unlikely, due to the lack of class consciousness and specific affinity for capitalism which seems to have developed in America over time. But something more significant than what has been before will come, I think. The Sanders campaign will likely be the first step in the development of a new American socialism. Even then, though, I think the myriad of social divisions would make it quite difficult for any kind of unified movement to emerge.
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Local Localist wrote:I suppose, but the United States seems more socially divided, at more intersections, than it has been at any point since the civil war. I suspect you are correct that any kind of sweeping economic shift is unlikely, due to the lack of class consciousness and specific affinity for capitalism which seems to have developed in America over time. But something more significant than what has been before will come, I think. The Sanders campaign will likely be the first step in the development of a new American socialism. Even then, though, I think the myriad of social divisions would make it quite difficult for any kind of unified movement to emerge.

That's more the direction I would be keeping an eye on. How things develop and evolve although I don't think it's there yet.
And yes, Obamacare and Sandwra campaigning has been good for mainstreaming certain ideas and is a good entry point in people developing a more radical view of the system where the call for reform of healthcare requires political power greater than enacting a single reform possibly.

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