noemon wrote:The mosaic I posted of Alexander is also a Mosaic not a picture and it was created at 100BC.
Yes, but this mosaic was a copy of a painting, and this is only a theory, and nobody saw the painting.
It is obvious that the sculpture by Lisippos is way more accurate than some works of art of later artists, who created their works many centuries after Alexander already died, and nobody knows what was painted on the supposed painting.
noemon wrote:That is not many centuries later as Alexander lived in 330BC and it is a depiction of one of his paintings. Your ridiculous theory to claim that you are more Greek than the Greeks is well noted though.
It is just a theory, nobody saw this painting.
BTW, what about the sculpture by Lisippos?
Is it not obvious that the sculpture and the painting show a different person?
We can be sure that the sculpture is genuine, but we cannot be sure about the painting.
noemon wrote:Another blatant issue with your logic is that the aforementioned Mosaic is Roman not Greek, did the ethnic-composition of Romans change in the 100BC as well?
Of course it constantly changed! Ancient Greece and ancient Rome were multi ethnic societies, and maybe even multi racial societies. And the ancient paintings prove that.
noemon wrote:The sculpture in case you have not noticed does not depict skin colour and the pictures I posted also look European according to you "except for their Med skin" as if the creators of Europe can be contrasted to "European" skin. That is in fact the proper European skin.
Even if we look at the old paintings we can see that South Europe was a melting pot. But what to the contemporary sculpture of Alexander, he had a Caucasian scull. The guy on the Mosaic has a different scull.
noemon wrote:Greeks and Italians and Spaniards have always been swarthy with dark hair and dark eyes. 90% of all Greek and Roman art depicts such Med type men, same continues into the Middle-Ages and the modern day, not Nordic type creatures and it makes sense since they wait for it...they live in the Med.
Different tribes lived in these region, there were no Italians or Spaniards 2000 years ago. Even Greeks were rather a culture, they were not homogeneous.
Pompei was a multi racial city, that is what you can see on the ancient paintings.
BTW, the paintings of "Romans" you pasted, lived in Egypt.
British archaeologists uncovered the first of the portraits in the ancient Roman site Tebtunis, located in what's today Umm el-Breigat in the Fayum region of Egypt.
http://now.howstuffworks.com/2016/02/15 ... -portraits
It was a Roman city, situated in Egypt, and it is obvious that the population of this region did not look like today Italians or the ancient Romans that lived in the city Rome or in what today is called Italy.
noemon wrote:A German neo-Nazi Nordic supremacist is asking how were the Jews traumatised.
You were talking about Israelis, not about the Jews.
I am not a supremacist, and it is getting old to play the "Nazi-Card" and imply the "German guilt". I did not live in the Third Reich, this state does not exist any more, BRD is a different state, created approximately at the same time, Israel was created.
BRD did not commit any crimes, so what shall I be ashamed of? I can believe or disbelieve the eye witnesses or the historians, that is all.
If I was a supremacists, I would believe that non whites were created to serve the whites, like Ovadia Yosef taught in Israel, and he got the biggest funeral in the history of Israel and was called "our great teacher" by prominent Israeli politicians. I just think that white Caucasians have the right to preserve their countries, and this is preservationism, not supremacism.
BTW, what about the Nakba?
Are Israelis not ashamed or traumatised because of the Nakba?
Nakba is part of Israeli history, but what happend before 1948 is not part of Israeli history, because there was no Israel before 1948. What happened before 1948 is not part of the history of BRD either, this state was created after WWII.
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