[QatzelOk]

...But here I am relying on facts and evidence instead of hurt feelings, I'm sure I can be disregarded.

You're relying on the small numbers of facts that have been made available to you, these specific freely-marketed "Facts TM" have lead you to give International Banksters a pass. Meanwhile, the groups you are giving a pass to control the flow of "facts."

It's actually very bad methodology to use "Deep state-selected facts" to judge what the Deep State (banksters and arms merchants) are up to.

[AlekSergiyEVICH]

You are wrong. It was not a revolution. Bolsheviks wanted it to be named as revolution but it was not it. Present communists too. Revolution - it is unexpected spontaneous victorious insurrection of people. Like in Holland in 1568. Like in France in 1789. But everybody knows that Russian "revolution" in 1917 was prepared and carried by bolsheviks party. So it was not revolution. It was not a people insurrection. It was not military coup too, because military men were not at the head of the "rebels". It was party coup. PARTY COUP! NOT REVOLUTION! It is a global mistake.

[Potemkin]

[You are wrong. It was not a revolution. Bolsheviks wanted it to be named as revolution but it was not it. Present communists too. Revolution - it is unexpected spontaneous victorious insurrection of people. Like in Holland in 1568. Like in France in 1789. But everybody knows that Russian "revolution" in 1917 was prepared and carried by bolsheviks party. So it was not revolution. It was not a people insurrection. It was not military coup too, because military men were not at the head of the "rebels". It was party coup. PARTY COUP! NOT REVOLUTION! It is a global mistake.

There were actually two revolutions in Russia in 1917: the February and the October Revolutions. The February Revolution was indeed a genuinely spontaneous uprising of the masses. It took Lenin completely by surprise - he was stranded in Switzerland at the time, and immediately tried desperately to get back to Russia before things settled down again. Indeed, just a few months before February 1917, Lenin had given a lecture to some students in which he told them that he didn't expect to see a revolution in Russia in his own lifetime. How wrong he was. The February Revolution led to a Provisional Government (and the fact that it called itself 'Provisional' tells you a lot) - the February Revolution had happened during the middle of a global War, so there was an on-going state of political chaos in Russia. The Provisional Government never managed to get a proper grip on Russia, and by late 1917 it was obvious that somebody was going to overthrow it. The only question was who - either the far-right or the far-left? In the event, the far-right made the first attempt, under General Kornilov, but the Provisional Government was able to defeat them, with critical help from the Bolsheviks. From then on, it was only a matter of time before the Bolsheviks took power - Kerensky could not politically survive without them (as the Kornilov attempted putsch had demonstrated), but the Bolsheviks didn't need him. Lenin made his move in October, and the rest is history....

[AlekSergiyEVICH]

"There were actually two revolutions in Russia in 1917: the February and the October Revolutions."

You are wrong! It was PERTY COUP in october!

"The February Revolution was indeed a genuinely spontaneous uprising of the masses."

You are right! So it was a revolution!

"Lenin made his move in October, and the rest is history"

You are wrong again. Because Trotsky was at the head of october coup but not Lenin! Trotsky was a jew and so he decided to cede his title to be "the leader of revolution" to Lenin for coup victory because many Russian people disliked jews. Trotsky was very clever, and the "revolution" won the war.

[Potemkin]

You are wrong again. Because Trotsky was at the head of october coup but not Lenin! Trotsky was a jew and so he decided to cede his title to be "the leader of revolution" to Lenin for coup victory because many Russian people disliked jews.

Then how do you explain the fact that by 1929 Trotsky had to flee for his life from the Soviet Union, and by 1940 one of Stalin's agents had stabbed him in the brain with an ice pick? It doesn't look to me like Trotsky was the secret master of the Bolshevik Party; quite the reverse, in fact.

[QatzelOk]

Then how do you explain the fact that by 1929 Trotsky had to flee for his life from the Soviet Union...

That he had to flee twelve years later does NOT prove that he wasn't the man behind the curtain of the Russian Revolution(s).

Obama played the "Lenin" for banksters (Trotskys) who might have to flee the USA in a decade or so.

[LV-GUCCI-PRADA-FLEX]

lol I love the equivalence between a revolutionary communists and "banksters" here. Just on the edge of saying "Jews" (Trotskys) without actually saying it. Kudos.

[Potemkin]

Yeah, our Qatz is an expert at "the text". Lol.