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#14784811
Trump Does Have Evidence



Evidence of Spying on Trump



CONFIRMED President Trump's Obama Wire Tapping Claims Backed By Top Intelligence Officer

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FBI Director James Comey was "incredulous" over the weekend after President Donald Trump's allegation via Twitter that former President Barack Obama ordered a wiretap of his phones during the campaign, a person familiar with the matter told CNN.

The source said Comey was concerned that the allegation would make the FBI look bad, and that concern was part of what prompted the FBI director to have his staff reach out to staff at the Justice Department asking them to knock down the allegation.

The source said Comey felt "institutionally he has to push back on this" because the magnitude of the allegations that Comey knows not to be true.

But yea, anecdotal accusations > FBI (who you lot cheered for investigating Hillary)
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Does Trump fully comprehend what his accusations mean about the integrity of the FBI? Does he even care? I do not think so. He is spitting on the grave of J Edgar Hoover and shitting over all the people who work or have worked at the FBI, working to protect our country from foreign threats. Why would the FBI authorize a wiretap on a private citizen? It does not make sense.

I would not believe Youtube videos. For all we know, those people were paid to say those things. They might be repeating text from a script that was given to them.
#14784828
Zagadka Quoted CNN:
FBI Director James Comey was "incredulous" over the weekend after President Donald Trump's allegation via Twitter that former President Barack Obama ordered a wiretap of his phones during the campaign, a person familiar with the matter told CNN.


Trump, "CNN - very Fake News" Rush, "Clinton News Network"
Ha ha
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MistyTiger wrote:
I would not believe Youtube videos. For all we know, those people were paid to say those things. They might be repeating text from a script that was given to them.


These youtube videos are from legitimates News sources, big league, not made up crap. Believe me.
#14784974
The IG is investigating the Justice Department, including the FBI.
If Comey did say such a thing, perhaps he is afraid of what will be uncovered.
Maybe there is more on crooked Hillary that has not come to light.
Who knows?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... t-and-fbi/

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cli ... ns-n706186

#14785022
This is claiming a conclusion to a conspiracy theory, based upon Levin (who is a commentator and pundit, not a source of news); Russia Today (which is notoriously problematic); and Biblical Prophecy News (no more need be said).

There is nothing of substance in any of these sources, and the conclusions that they draw is strictly for political reasons that have nothing to do with fact.
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So now there is nothing of substance from any of those liberal news sources. But it was a different story when the same sources were used by the liberal Democrats in drawing their conclusions that the Trump campaign were colluding with the Russians to fix the elections.
Hypocrites.

This thread was moved to Conspiracy Theories because there is, as of yet, no substance behind those sources provided. Levin, (like Maddow or others on the other side), is a pundit that is part ofa long journalistic tradition that is not news--But opinions and analysis about the news. Nor does FOX News claim that it is news. Hannity, for instance, is very clear that: "I'm not a journalist, I'm a talk show host." The sources your provided are punditry about a conspiracy theory. It has, in no way, been verified.

-TIG Edit
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Hindsite wrote:So now there is nothing of substance from any of those liberal news sources. But it was a different story when the same sources were used by the liberal Democrats in drawing their conclusions that the Trump campaign were colluding with the Russians to fix the elections.
Hypocrites.


Are you kidding, I don't trust liberal news sources but at least they're on the basis of reality. Why can't you connect the dots, trump had some help from the Russians. It's like payback for the 1996 elections when Boris got back in, instead of the communists. Anyway, you're a reactionary, therefore useless in intelligence.
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I once worked with the Defense Intelligence Agency at the Pentagon.
I had a Top Secret Special Intelligence security clearance.

Praise the Lord.
#14785155
Hindsite wrote:I once worked with the Defense Intelligence Agency at the Pentagon.
I had a Top Secret Special Intelligence security clearance.

Praise the Lord.


And, you willingly refuse to see it. American devils gonna devil.
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Hindsite wrote:
These youtube videos are from legitimates News sources, big league, not made up crap. Believe me.


Ummm suuuure, you keep believing that.

Youtube videos are not official but more for hobbyists or people who just feel like venting.
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How would someone know there phone is tapped? Well, let's say you have a telephone conversation with a friend. A few days later you see a transcript of the call published somewhere. You hit up the friend. He denies he is the leak. Hmmm. :lol:
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But in politics, those on the left don't think logically when it makes their guy look bad. Obviously, the evidence is only circumstantial, but it is there from leaks to the liberal news media, like the New York Times. Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—like a fingerprint at the scene of a crime.
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Dennis Kucinich: I'm no fan of Trump's but he's got a point about wiretapping.

President Trump’s assertion that his phones at Trump Tower were tapped last year has been treated as hilarious—and in some circles as beyond contempt. But I can vouch for the fact that extracurricular surveillance does occur, regardless of whether it is officially approved. I was wiretapped in 2011 after taking a phone call in my congressional office from a foreign leader.

That a secret recording had been made of this call was revealed to me by the Washington Times in 2015, a full two years after I left office.

The newspaper’s investigative reporters called me, saying they had obtained a tape of a sensitive telephone conversation that they wanted me to verify.

When I met them at a Chinese restaurant in Washington, they played back audio of a call I had taken in my D.C. congressional office four years earlier.

The call had been from Saif el-Islam Qaddafi, a high-ranking official in Libya’s government and a son of the country’s ruler, Moammar Qaddafi.

At the time I was leading efforts in the House to challenge the Obama administration’s war against Libya. The Qaddafi government reached out to me because its appeals to the White House and the State Department to forestall the escalating aggression had gone unanswered.

Before taking the call, I checked with the House’s general counsel to ensure that such a discussion by a member of Congress with a foreign power was permitted by law.

I was assured that under the Constitution a lawmaker had a fundamental duty to ask questions and gather information—activity expressly protected by the Article I clauses covering separation of powers and congressional speech and debate. I could and did ask questions of the younger Mr. Qaddafi.

On the Libyan end, the risk of the conversation was that whatever phone was used to call my office might serve as a homing beacon for a drone strike.

That possibility was minimized, I was told, by calling me on a cellphone that was used only once and then discarded.

Somehow, the Washington Times had gotten its hands on the surreptitious recording. I authenticated the conversation, and parts of it were published by the newspaper, which provided online links where readers could listen to me talking with Mr. Qaddafi.

The reporters did not say, nor did I ask, who had made the tape. But the paper’s stories referenced “secret audio recordings recovered from Tripoli.”

I have only my suspicions about their true provenance. The quality of the recordings was excellent on both ends of the call.

If sources had indeed discovered the tapes in Tripoli, there is no plausible explanation for how they would have chosen the Washington Times to carry the story. And which foreign intelligence service conceivably could have been interested in my phone call, had the technology to intercept it, and then wanted to leak it to the newspaper?

There’s a simpler explanation: I believe the tape was made by an American intelligence agency and then leaked to the Times for political reasons. If so, this episode represented a gross violation of the separation of powers.

Shortly after the Times story was published, I alerted congressional leaders to the breach and then let the matter rest, assuming that a series of routine Freedom of Information Act requests I had made in 2012 before leaving office would provide answers.

Five years later I am still waiting for FOIA responses from some of the intelligence agencies.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/03/ ... pping.html

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