[Rich]

Covid-19 as I have said from the beginning is a biological warfare attack by the Chinese National Socialist government under its leader Xi Jinping. The attack was made with three main goals.

1 To put and end to protests in Wuhan province and Hongkong but also to serve as a lesson to the rest of the people that live under the jackboot of China's National Socialist government.

2 To stop Donald Trump's re-election

3 to undermine democracy and free speech across the world and promote authoritarian and fascist government across the world. The Chinese leadership didn't need to be geniuses or have prophetic insight to see how Western Liberals would respond to this. That they would see this as a dream come true. Although I doubt even they could have predicted the level of Liberal hypocrisy over the Black Lies Matter protests and riots.

So its important to remember a couple of other factors. The Xi virus almost certainly has a racial bias. It seems to effects East Asian people less than other races. Note this is separate from the issue of dark skinned people in temperate climates having much greater tendencies to vitamin D deficiency. There are also different strains of this virus. I believe the strain released in Iran is different to the one released in Wuhan. This was a clever move by the Chinese leadership as Iran was not an obvious enemy.

Anyway that is the vital background to this event. I do not believe the American deep State was in any way responsible for the creation release and spread of this virus. But they may well be responsible for deliberately infecting Donald Trump. And they may be responsible for infecting him with a particularly nasty strain of this virus.

[Godstud]

@Rich You must have a whole collection of hats...

[Rich]

:lol: @Rich You must have a whole collection of hats...

Yeah right I believe

1 A lot of people across the political spectrum either don't like or don't trust Donald Trump.

2 That people within government for every President illegal use their positions of authority and trust to undermine a President they don't like.

3 That agencies or individuals within agencies that are entrusted with a high level of secrecy might and I repeat the word might abuse their power in more serious ways.

That so far out, wacky and crazy?

[Godstud]

Conspiracy theories are your bread and butter, @Rich.

USA is not the world, despite your stupid beliefs.

[Rich]

Conspiracy theories are your bread and butter, @Rich.

That's a lie. Its you that lyingly tries to portray my analysis as a conspiracy theory. Like your pathetic fantasy that Cultural Marxism is a a conspiracy theory. I only have to pop down my local college and sign up for a sociology A level to receive Cultural Marxist indoctrination, there's absolutely nothing that's hidden or secret about it, apart from maybe people's individual psychological motivations.

I have to say for someone that claims to like science you are remarkably ignorant. Any one with an ounce of knowledge would recognise that what I said was at best a conspiracy hypothesis not a conspiracy theory.

[Godstud]

Like your pathetic fantasy that Cultural Marxism is a a conspiracy theory.

It is a conspiracy theory you pathetic fool.

Cultural Marxism is a far-right, antisemitic conspiracy theory which claims Western Marxism as the basis of continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture.[1][2][3][4] The conspiracists claim that Marxist theorists and Frankfurt School intellectuals are subverting Western society with a culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and promotes the liberal values of the 1960s counterculture and multiculturalism, progressive politics and political correctness; misrepresented as identity politics created by critical theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ ... acy_theory

So fuck yourself! I don't lie.

[Rich]

Cultural Marxism is a far-right, antisemitic conspiracy theory which claims Western Marxism as the basis of continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture.[1][2][3][4] The conspiracists claim that Marxist theorists and Frankfurt School intellectuals are subverting Western society with a culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and promotes the liberal values of the 1960s counterculture and multiculturalism, progressive politics and political correctness; misrepresented as identity politics created by critical theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_ ... acy_theory

So fuck yourself! I don't lie.

Just because you didn't invent lie doesn't stop it being a lie. I have explained the Cultural Marxist categorisation a number of times. Of course all analysis must approximate, no categorisation is perfect, we are dealing with human society, the categorisations of sociology can never have the precision of the classifications of say particle physics.

But the basis of Cultural Marxism is clear, its where the focus or centrality of socio economic class and in particular the imagined struggle between the orthodox Marxist categories of Bourgeoisie and Proletariat has been replaced by a focus or centrality on other groups nationality, race, religion, culture gender, sexuality etc, etc,.

[Godstud]

It's a conspiracy theory and an anti-semitic one at that, you stupid fool.

The only one peddling lies is your foolish ass.

[Rugoz]

But the basis of Cultural Marxism is clear, its where the focus or centrality of socio economic class and in particular the imagined struggle between the orthodox Marxist categories of Bourgeoisie and Proletariat has been replaced by a focus or centrality on other groups nationality, race, religion, culture gender, sexuality etc, etc,.

Why the hell would anyone call it Marxist if it has nothing to do with economics? The term was basically invented by a bunch of dumbass Americans for whom Marxism = evil and thus they came up with cultural Marxism = cultural evil.

[Rich]

Why the hell would anyone call it Marxist if it has nothing to do with economics? The term was basically invented by a bunch of dumbass Americans for whom Marxism = evil and thus they came up with cultural Marxism = cultural evil.

What some Americans, who may or may not have been dumbasses, may have said over the last 100 years or so is totally irrelevant. So cultural Marxism is a confluence of three things.

1 Changes in strategy by orthodox Marxists.

2 A group or grouping of ideologies that while not orthodox Marxism, as much as that can be defined, are heavily influenced and inspired by Marxism. Some of the key individuals may have been more orthodox marxist earlier.

3 Elite over production.

But if you want a starting point for Cultural Marxism it starts with Hilferding and Lenin, prior to the First World War, already we see a move away from the centrality of the Bourgeoisie -Proletariat polarity or dialectic as they like to call it. Lenin didn't expect the proletarian revolution to happen in his life time.

Or Just look at the British Communist Party in the eighties say, apart from the Miners strike episode, you were far more likely to see them at an Anti Apartheid meeting, a troops out rally or a CND march than you were on a picket line. Cultural Marxism is inextricably tied up with people who see themselves as Orthodox Marxists and very much consider themselves the ideological heirs of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky and Mao.

I could be considered something of a Zoologist or anthropologist of Leftists. I know the little signs to look out for to judge whether someone is an orthodox Marxist or not, but even for an expert it can often be difficult to tell the difference.

[Godstud]

It's a dumbass conspiracy theory for Snowflakes.

'Cultural Marxism': a uniting theory for rightwingers who love to play the victim
The conspiracy theorists claim that these “cultural Marxists” began to use insidious forms of psychological manipulation to upend the west. Then, when Nazism forced the (mostly Jewish) members of the Frankfurt School to move to America, they had, the story goes, a chance to undermine the culture and values that had sustained the world’s most powerful capitalist nation.

The vogue for the ideas of theorists like Herbert Marcuse and Theodor Adorno in the 1960s counterculture culminated with their acolytes’ occupation of the commanding heights of the most important cultural institutions, from universities to Hollywood studios. There, the conspiracy says, they promoted and even enforced ideas which were intended to destroy traditional Christian values and overthrow free enterprise: feminism, multiculturalism, gay rights and atheism. And this, apparently, is where political correctness came from. I promise you: this is what they really think.

The whole story is transparently barmy. If humanities faculties are really geared to brainwashing students into accepting the postulates of far-left ideology, the composition of western parliaments and presidencies and the roaring success of corporate capitalism suggests they’re doing an astoundingly bad job. Anyone who takes a cool look at the last three decades of politics will think it bizarre that anyone could interpret what’s happened as the triumph of an all-powerful left.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... the-victim

[Igor Antunov]

So CHynah is gonna wipe out dumpf once and for all. Then liberals can thank chynah for freeing them from drumpf as they stuff the ballots and import millions of voters thus ending the relevancy of the gop and the Us becomes a one globalist party pro chynah state.

I see no other logic in this sorry excuse of a political circus.

[Godstud]

Covid-19 in the USA has nothing to do with China, @Igor Antunov> It mostly has to do with shit leadership from Dumbass Trump. Your conspiracy theories about the virus being created to destroy USA, are as stupid as cultural marxism, chemtrails and anal-probing aliens.

[Rancid]

Chine would not want Trump dead. He's more useful valuable being disruptive to the domestic affairs of the US.

[Local Localist]

This thread needs a different name

[skinster]

Covid-19 as I have said from the beginning is a biological warfare attack by the Chinese National Socialist government under its leader Xi Jinping. The attack was made with three main goals.

China warned the U.S. of this "biological warfare attack" at the end of December last year.

Also, do you have any evidence for this claim?

1 To put and end to protests in Wuhan province and Hongkong but also to serve as a lesson to the rest of the people that live under the jackboot of China's National Socialist government.

Citations needed.

2 To stop Donald Trump's re-election

Citation needed.

3 to undermine democracy and free speech across the world and promote authoritarian and fascist government across the world. The Chinese leadership didn't need to be geniuses or have prophetic insight to see how Western Liberals would respond to this. That they would see this as a dream come true. Although I doubt even they could have predicted the level of Liberal hypocrisy over the Black Lies Matter protests and riots.

lol.

Also, citations needed.

So its important to remember a couple of other factors. The Xi virus almost certainly has a racial bias. It seems to effects East Asian people less than other races. Note this is separate from the issue of dark skinned people in temperate climates having much greater tendencies to vitamin D deficiency. There are also different strains of this virus. I believe the strain released in Iran is different to the one released in Wuhan. This was a clever move by the Chinese leadership as Iran was not an obvious enemy.

Dear gods.

Also, citations needed.

[Rich]

Also, do you have any evidence for this claim?

I support Democracy, free speech and due process. Not as some absolutes, not across all human history in every possible situation, but still I'm a strong supporter. Khalid Sheik Mohammad was accused of a crime or crimes. He was accused of taking part in a murderous criminal conspiracy. Leaving aside the absolute morality of his actions, what he was accused of was a crime in pretty much every legal jurisdiction in the world. I saw no reason, or justification for denying him due process. An international trial with a non American Judge and an international jury.

Adolph Hitler on the other hand invaded rCzecholovakia and betrayed the Munich agreement. There's no need for a trial in this case. Its not criminal offence. This is a political-diplomatic issue not a criminal issue. We do not need to prove that Hitler was leader of Germany. We do not need to prove that he was responsible for the invasion. These war crimes trials and Haig tribunals and the like make a mockery of the rule of law. No I argue Hitler should have been sentenced to death by Act of Parliament, as Lance in Pulp Fiction puts it, "no jury no trial straight to execution".

The wider point here is that dictators and the leaders and top officials in dictatorships don't get the benefit of the doubt, they don't get innocent until proven guilty. I have laid out various points things that I believe support my analysis on the origin of Covid -19. But there is no and there is never going to be any legal or quasi legal process as may take place when there are accusations of wrong doing within a western country.

[skinster]

So no evidence. Cool story, Rich.

[Godstud]

But... but... Cultural Marxism!!!

[maz]

Donald Trump got Covid-19 33 days before the election. See my thread on '33 Coronavirus'

Just part of the show people.