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Today Science tells us the speed of light is decaying, the magnetic field is collapsing, the earth is slowly beginning to wobble on its axis, the protective ozone layer is thinning. In Psalm 102:25-26 -- God predicted the earth would wear out. These were unknown until the last century.
Science is only beginning to catch up on what God had man record in the Bible from ancient times. The Bible never claims to be a text book on science but when it does speak on nature or physics it is absolutely accurate.
God speaking to Abraham who is the one he would begin to give his teachings to Gen. 13:16 “And I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth; so that if a man could number the dust of the earth, then your descendants also could be numbered.”
Genesis 15:5 says the stars cannot be numbered by man.Jeremiah 33:32 explains the stars are beyond numbering.
Before the telescope was invented, man was able to number the stars. Hipparchus said in 150 B.C. there are exactly 1,026 stars. 150 years later a Roman named Ptolemy said there are 1,056, Kepler counted 1,006.
Since Galileo invented the telescope in 1608, we continued to discover more stars. Up until the last few hundred years until the discovery of the telescope there were only 6,000 stars seen by the naked eye. A modern telescope of 200 inches estimates 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone. And there are not millions but billions of such galaxies.
The Biblical scientific insights were far in advance of modern day science.Today, with our technology and high powered telescopes in space and astronomers estimate that there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy with an additional 20-100 billion galaxies in the universe! Henry Morris says there are at least 10 million, billion, billion stars! See Gen.15:5, Job 22:12;Isaiah 55:9; 1 Corinthians 15:41 and 2 Peter 3:10.
Gen. 15:5 “Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.” And He said to him, “So shall your descendants be.”Now we know there are at least 1 hundred million, billion, billion. This would be like your counting 10 numbers per second. It would then take you a thousand, million, billion years. God's point is that we can’t count with the naked eye that high.
Gen. 22:17 “ I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; Another example of the amount of stars that cannot be counted.
Isaiah 40:22 tells us the earth is not flat but a round sphere. The prophet states God “sits above the circle on the face of the earth.”From God’s perspective he could look straight down on a sphere (a ball) describes as a circle? Obviously a circle meant 3d because that is what the earth actually is. The word for circle is about a sphere or with roundness. The Hebrew word is chuwg a primitive root [compare 2287]; to describe a circle: Brown, Drivers, Briggs explains to encircle, to encompass, to describe a circle, to draw round, to make a circle; (Qal) to encircle, to encompass.
The Bible had refuted the flat earth theory long before scientists actually disproved it. The atmosphere is a terrestrial blanket making the earth inhabitable -- retaining heat, spreading light, providing air (Job.26:10). Only someone who could see it from off the planet would be able to know this. As Job went though his physical trial he was also having a spiritual one. God began to enter into conversation with him "Listen to this, O Job; stand still and consider the wondrous works of God" (Job 37:14)
Job 22:14 says the earth is round. “And He walks above the circle of heaven.” The word meaning circle, circuit, compass that is our atmosphere around the earth. For centuries, man believed that the earth was flat. Christopher Columbus was criticized for setting sail to the other side of the earth, they expected Columbus to sail off the edge of the earth. Columbus had received his insight that motivated him from the Bible. When people thought it was flat God told us it was round. If they only read the Bible they wouldn't have been afraid to fall off.
Job 26:7 says the earth is suspended on nothing. Early man thought Atlas, a huge turtle or elephants held up the earth. In the North sky within the millions of stars is a vast expanse of blackness. The Bible was there before the telescope so only God could describe it. Today we know it is gravity that holds the planets and stars in their orbits making them appear to be hung on nothing.
Job 28:25 says air has weight. Science confirms air is about 50 miles thick, exactly the right composition to support life. It's perfect for our lungs. The air filters deadly rays. If the earth was 10% larger or smaller all would die. We are in a fragile balance before the sun between frying and freezing.
Job 36:27-28; Ecclesiastes 1:6-7; Isaiah 40:12 and 55:10 explains the hydrological cycle. The condensation and hydrology maintain life, provide evaporation, transportation, precipitation and run-off . This describe the repeated cycle of precipitation, its evaporation, and condensation in the clouds.
In recent history science taught that most clouds are formed by evaporation of water from the ocean, but the Bible recorded this centuries ago.
Solomon wrote in Ecclesiastes 1:6-7, “The wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course. All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the streams come from, there they return again. Here King Solomon, writing 3,000 years ago explains how the oceans are the origin of rain. tells us the wind has currents.
This was unknown to man, today science has documented the direction of wind currents and wind paths. Meteorology or the circulation of winds move by fixed laws, speaks of global wind currents and the earth's water cycle. “The phrase, 'the wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course' is an accurate and astonishing description of the circular flow of air around the earth, called the 'jet stream,' well known to anyone who watches the evening news weather reports”( also in Isaiah 40:12.) This is only a recent understanding of scientists. Is Scripture human supposition or divine revelation?
Job 38:12,17 and Luke 17 show the earth rotates. Ancient science taught a geocentric view of the universe. The change of night and day were thought to be caused by the sun revolving around the earth. We know today that it is the earth's rotation on its axis that gives us the affect of the sun's rising and setting.
Job about 4,000 years ago, wrote Job 38:12: “Have you commanded the morning since your days began, and caused the dawn to know its place," v.14 “ It takes on form like clay under a seal.” Job paints the picture here is of clay being turned or rotated on the potter's wheel.
Job 38:16 tells us there are springs in the sea (this was not known until 1913 when they found underground rivers).
Solomon mentions about the movement of water in Eccl.1:7 “All streams run to the sea, but the sea is not full; to the place where the streams flow, there they flow again.”Matthew Maury who lived in the middle 1800's had a career with the U.S. Navy. He was the founder of modern oceanography and hydrography. Maury was inspired by Psalm 8:8, dedicated his life to find and document these paths God had mentioned in Scripture.
“Whatever passes along the paths of the sea.” These paths were unknown before he charted the winds and currents of the Atlantic. Maury draw accurate maps of ocean currents that are still used today.
Job 38:22 mentions the treasures of the snow. Each flake is of perfect dimensions and all are different. The snow is beneficial for nitrogen for fertilizer.
Water is heavier than air, and is transported in clouds. Some see this process suggested as God continued in his conversation with Job “Dost thou know the balancing of the clouds, the wondrous works of Him who is perfect in knowledge?” (Job 37:16).
In Job 36:27 and 28 is the statement, He draws up the drops' of water, which distill as rain to the streams; the clouds pour Down their moisture and abundant showers fall on mankind.” Here we find an accurate description of the earth's hydrologic, cycle. Even during the Middle Ages, the source of rain water was something of a mystery. But in approximately 2,000 B.C. we find Job accurately describing the rain cycle.
Job 38:30 describes ice. Frozen water expands and rises. To sink would kill water life.
Job 38:31 explains the solar system. The Hebrew speaks of a pivot or hinge. In the South-Southwest is the Pleiades, 7 stars making up the center of the solar system. Amos 5:8 states the Pleiades consists of 7 stars but it was only discovered in this last century because with the naked eye one can see only 6.
Job 40:15-24 speaks of the Bohemoth and Leviathan, are what we would know as dinosaurs living in the same time as man. In fact there are many cave drawings of spears being thrown at creatures that we know as dinosaurs today.
Psalm 8:8 mentions the paths of the sea. We read about “the birds of the air, and the fish of' the sea, all that swim the paths of the sea.” But it wasn't until the mid nineteenth century when Matthew Fontaine Maury, the “father of oceanography,” published his discovery that the ocean possesses predictable paths or currents. When Psalm 8 was written, the only seas known to the Hebrews were the Dead Sea, the Sea of Galilee, the Mediterranean, and the Red Sea.' These bodies of water did not possess “paths” or significant observable currents. It took Matthew Maury a great deal of time to collect the crude observational data that existed from the fifteenth to the nineteenth century to make his own discovery. And yet the Psalmist wrote of “the paths of the seas.”
Psalm 102:25,26 reveals the earth is wearing down. The magnetic field is collapsing the earth is slowly beginning to wobble on its axis, the protective ozone layer is thinning, the 2nd law of thermodynamics proves everything is wearing down.
Psalm 139:13-16 poetically describes the value of the DNA molecule in the formation of the unborn child. Proverbs 8:26 explains the dust particles and the air which makes light.
Proverbs 16:24 and 17:22 explains psychotherapy.
Daniel 12:4 told us knowledge would increase. Only in the last 100 YEARS of time have we developed the common match, ink pen or safety pin. From candles to lanterns to light bulbs to new forms of energy (combustible engine etc.). The last period of time (a little over 100 years) has brought us from the ox cart of the old west like the olden times of Egypt to modern planes and spacecraft. Today knowledge doubles nearly every two weeks.
Rom.1:20 explains Atoms. Tells us that things seen are made from the invisible things. Heb.11:3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed (made to fit put in order) by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. The things which are seen are made of things not seen.
This was not known until modern science discovered the invisible atoms. Invisible to the eye microscopic structures, The Encyclopedia describes it as a unit of matter, the smallest unit of an element, having all the characteristics of that element and consisting of a dense, central, positively charged nucleus surrounded by a system of electrons. The entire structure has an approximate diameter of 10-8 centimeter and characteristically remains undivided in chemical reactions except for limited removal, transfer, or exchange of certain electrons. Atoms cannot be seen using optical microscopes, they are much smaller than the wavelengths of visible light. Seen by imaging techniques such as electron microscopes, scanning tunneling microscopes, and atomic force microscopes,
Joseph John Thomson in 1897 to involve a stream of negatively charged particles with individual masses much smaller than that of any atom. These particles were called electrons, and they were soon recognized to be a constituent of all atoms. That is, atoms are not indivisible but contain parts.
In other sciences we find similar scientific prevision. In medicine, God had directed Abraham to circumcise newborn males specifically on the eighth day (Genesis 17:12). It wasn't until the twentieth century we discovered that only after eight days of life does vitamin K in the infant's diet permit prothrombin, an important blood clotting factor, to reach its peak. To circumcise on an earlier day, when the clotting mechanism is immature, could result in excessive bleeding. Further, there are many other cultures that circumcise their males on the first, fourth, sixth, seventh, or twentieth days of life. If the Jews had discovered the eighth day merely by trial and error, why didn't other cultures do so? Clearly Jewish practice was based on obedience to divine revelation. Deut.23:12-14, Lev. 17:11, and many other Scriptures reflect hygienic or medical knowledge far in advance of its time. The life is in the blood.
Leviticus 17:11 shows us the life of flesh is in the blood. Something only recently discovered by science. There are 75,000 miles of veins and arteries in the body to carry the blood.
Many of the great scientific discoveries were inspired through the Word of God. As men who trusted God as the creator discovered an intelligent designer for the universe and pursued what he inspired others to write thousands of years before.
While the Bible is not written as a science textbook when it speaks on nature and science it is accurate. Only the creator could communicate this.
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
Francis and Roger Bacon.
Galileo=Heliocentricity
Sir Issac Newton= Calculas and gravity, particle theory of light
Joseph Lister= Antiseptic surgery
Matthew Maury- Discovery of oceanography from Psalms 8:8
Louis Pastuer = sterilization, bacteriology he is one of the greatest biologists.
Johann Kepler =celestial mechanics astronomy
Robert Boyle= founder of chemistry ( a Christian ).
William Harvey= circulation of the blood.
Modern discoveries by Christians= Michael faraday -made the generator and electro magnetic induction
Samuel Morris made the telegraph and his first words Numbers 23:23 "what God has wrought."
James Simpson was the founder of ginecology founded chloroform on Adams deep sleep (he said his greatest discovery was that he had a savior.)
Nicolas Steno= Father of the science of stratography
Charles Barage= Computer, speedometer, opthamaloscope ( a Christian)
Carolus Lineaus= Gave us the family of species the Genesis kind (believer in the Bible) Taxonomy.
http://letusreason.org/Apolo6.htmWhat were Galileo Galilei's conflicts with the Roman Catholic Church? It was not a simple conflict between science and religion, as usually portrayed. Rather it was a conflict between Copernican science and Aristotelian science which had become Church tradition. Galileo expressed his scientific views supporting Copernicus as well as his biblical views in a 1615 letter to the Grand Duchess of Tuscany which became the basis of his first Church trial and censure. A major work published in 1632 resulted in Galileo's conviction on suspicion of heresy and a lifetime house arrest. The Galileo affair provides important lessons and applications to the Church and to science today.
Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) believed the universe is finite and spherical with a stationary Earth at its center. Enclosing the whole universe is the sphere of the Prime Motion turned by the First Unmoved Mover. Inside that were transparent spheres containing fixed and unchanging stars, planets, moon and sun. Aristotle was also a renowned philosopher.
Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543 A.D.) was a Renaissance man educated in the classics, law, theology, mathematics, metaphysics, languages, and astronomy. Copernicus developed a cosmology with the sun at the center, the Earth rotating about a polar axis, and the Earth and planets circling the sun, essentially as we know it today.
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642 A.D.) received a broad Renaissance education. Until 1610, when Galileo built his first telescope at age 46, he focused mainly on physics, not astronomy. He soon made discoveries which shook the foundations of the Aristotelian cosmos. He saw mountains, valleys and other features indicating change on the moon. He observed the motion of four of Jupiter's moons, now referred to as the Galilean moons. No longer could scientists say that heavenly bodies revolve exclusively around the Earth. He also observed the phases of Venus, the only explanation of which is that Venus moves around the sun and not the Earth.
Response to these discoveries ranged from enthusiastic to very hostile. Never fearing a fight, Galileo actively defended his evidence which supported the Copernican cosmos.
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