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@XogGyux

Only now you don't need the mask with a hole in it.
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Uk have approved the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

The trials showed that none of the people receiving the first dose went on to require hospital treatment so the decision has been taken to only administer the first dose for the first three months of roll out.

This is very good news as it means 20 million will get vaccinated by the end of March, which should be sufficient to cover vulnerable in the community as well as careworkers.

The second dose will still be administered but only once all those most at risk have been vaccinated.
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BeesKnee5 wrote:The trials showed that none of the people receiving the first dose went on to require hospital treatment so the decision has been taken to only administer the first dose for the first three months of roll out.


Not that I am against the stategy per se, but if the trails and data is according to two doses three weeks apart, why are we playing around with data? I know Blair said something on the same lines with the Pfizer vaccine but as the certificate was according for two doses, two doses was needed. I do wish we would stop the fudge and actually keep to what we know will work then go against the way this vaccine was designed to be administered. Because you cannot reverse things if you go against the instructions and things go wrong.
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Indonesia have decided to take the approach I was early told is ignorant.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2990MX

"I don’t think anybody can get too dogmatic about what is the right approach,” said Peter Collignon, professor of infectious diseases at Australian National University, adding that Indonesia’s strategy could slow the spread of the disease, although it may not affect mortality rates."

“Indonesia doing it different to the U.S. and Europe is of value, because it will tell us (whether) you’ll see a more dramatic effect in Indonesia than Europe or U.S. because of the strategy they’re doing, but I don’t think anybody knows the answer.”

Professor Dale Fisher from the Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine at the National University of Singapore said he understood the rationale of Indonesia’s approach.

“Younger working adults are generally more active, more social and travel more so this strategy should decrease community transmission faster than vaccinating older individuals,” he said.

“Of course older people are more at risk of severe disease and death so vaccinating those has an alternative rationale. I see merit in both strategies.”
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Another Country using a different regime that prioritises care workers over care home residents

Netherlands
https://nltimes.nl/2021/01/05/living-ne ... d-covid-19

Priority Order
Health Care Workers in residential and acute care - Vaccinations start 6th Jan
Care Home residents - Vacinations to start end Jan / Early Feb
Workers and Residents in institutionalized care - Starts mid February.

It really isnt one size fits all
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@Brandenski please provide a source for your stupid claim.
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50 or so percent of nurses are rejecting this vaccine. One might ask why


Yes. One might ask why you posted so obvious a lie.

Not a single one of the nurses with whom I work has refused the vaccine. None. Stop posting full of shit nonsense. Or get an adult to help you with your trolling.
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Drlee wrote:Yes. One might ask why you posted so obvious a lie.

Not a single one of the nurses with whom I work has refused the vaccine. None. Stop posting full of shit nonsense. Or get an adult to help you with your trolling.


Actually I do not need to lie as the truth is always way more fun

It's happening all over the USA

LA Times
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ine-access
60 percent of nursing home workers refuse vaccine
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2020/12/ ... e-vaccine/

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarming- ... 9-vaccine/

However you do not know this because the fake news is not reporting this
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They aren't taking the vaccine because they are stupid and doing so for political reasons(it said that in the article).


It is common on this site to post your source, and not just make a claim without said source to support it. Save time and post something to support it, next time.
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B0ycey wrote:Not that I am against the stategy per se, but if the trails and data is according to two doses three weeks apart, why are we playing around with data? I know Blair said something on the same lines with the Pfizer vaccine but as the certificate was according for two doses, two doses was needed. I do wish we would stop the fudge and actually keep to what we know will work then go against the way this vaccine was designed to be administered. Because you cannot reverse things if you go against the instructions and things go wrong.

Desperation is why.
If you're in the situation like Australia you have more room to wait it out and see how other countries do.
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Godstud wrote:They aren't taking the vaccine because they are stupid and doing so for political reasons(it said that in the article).


It is common on this site to post your source, and not just make a claim without said source to support it. Save time and post something to support it, next time.


By not posting a source immediately I can determine that people like you are ignorant to the truth. Here is the proof of what I reported as fact
Nurses are rejecting the vaccine all over the USA, many of them are of child bearing years and will not pollute their bodies with DNA altering krap

LA Times
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ine-access
60 percent of nursing home workers refuse vaccine
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2020/12/ ... e-vaccine/

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarming- ... 9-vaccine/

However you do not know this because the fake news is not reporting this
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Brandenski wrote:
Actually I do not need to lie as the truth is always way more fun

It's happening all over the USA

LA Times
https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... ine-access
60 percent of nursing home workers refuse vaccine
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2020/12/ ... e-vaccine/

https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarming- ... 9-vaccine/

However you do not know this because the fake news is not reporting this



All the articles with high numbers were talking about nursing home workers. While some of them will be nurses, a lot of them won't be.

About that one other article.. an estimate of 20% to 40% is more guess than estimate.

Based on what we now know, the vaccines are safe, and a lot safer than doing without.
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late wrote:All the articles with high numbers were talking about nursing home workers. While some of them will be nurses, a lot of them won't be.

About that one other article.. an estimate of 20% to 40% is more guess than estimate.

Based on what we now know, the vaccines are safe, and a lot safer than doing without.


LOL they said that the measles vaccine was safe until it was PROVED to have caused autism in a court of law

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-to- ... urt-award/

So anyone claiming to know the long term effects of any new vaccine is either a liar or a schizzo mental case
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Brandenski wrote:
So anyone claiming to know the long term effects of any new vaccine is either a liar or a schizzo mental case



Not what I said, but thanks for letting me know you've left reality.
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So the thing is that I work with a shit ton of nurses and they are ALL getting vaccinated as soon as they can.

You want to talk about fake news? You sources are fake news.

I know one respiratory therapist who is refusing the vaccine. She is an obese 45 year old and, frankly and obviously, not very smart.

But if we suppose that some people are not taking the vaccine for political reasons, and in light of what we saw yesterday in DC, clearly the Republicans have become the party of mass murderers.
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