[Rancid]

Like the recent deadly heatwave.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01869-0

Climate change made North America’s deadly heatwave 150 times more likely

Rising global temperatures probably contributed to a week of record-breaking heat in Canada and the United States.

The devastating heatwave that struck parts of Canada and the United States late last month would have been extremely unlikely without global warming, researchers have concluded.

The chance of temperatures in the Pacific Northwest region coming close to 50 °C has increased at least 150-fold since the end of the nineteenth century, found a rapid analysis conducted in response to the heatwave.

“This heatwave would have been virtually impossible without the influence of human-caused climate change,” says Sjoukje Philip, a climate scientist at the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) in De Bilt and a co-author of the analysis. “It was probably still a rare event, but if global warming might exceed two degrees, it might occur every five to ten years in the future.”

….

It also made our cold snaps more deadly. See Texas winter blackout. That shit fucking sucked, and it's could happen again this winter.

Yet our dumb shit governor is more concerned with largely non-existent election fraud..... at that, when it has happened it's usually Trumptards committing it. fucking morons (like scamp).

[Truth To Power]

Like the recent deadly heatwave.

It's true that increased solar activity -- to the highest sustained level in thousands of years -- has restored the earth to more normal Holocene temperatures following the coldest 500y period in the last 10Ky, and that this natural warming trend has made episodes of temperatures higher than those of the Little Ice Age more likely. But to label climate at the end of the Little Ice Age "pre-industrial" is deliberate deceitfulness, as the pre-industrial climate embraces the entire 4.3Gy history of climate before ~1850, almost all of which was far warmer than today. And to claim that the 20th century warming could only have been caused by CO2 is an absurd post hoc fallacy.

[Pants-of-dog]

@Truth To Power

There is no evidence showing that heatwaves are now more likely because of solar activity. In fact, the evidence we do have suggests the exact opposite.

[Truth To Power]

@Truth To Power

There is no evidence showing that heatwaves are now more likely because of solar activity.

I have provided you with such evidence.

In fact, the evidence we do have suggests the exact opposite.

No it doesn't.

[Pants-of-dog]

@Truth To Power

Here is the post where I provided evidence:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=181123&start=100#p15196748

Please note that the evidence cited in that post contradicts the claim that solar activity is responsible for the current climate problems.

Please feel free to provide a link to the evidence you supposedly provided.

[BlutoSays]

A lot of what winds me up in not what forum members say but what I have to endure from Liberal media, so apologies upfront for expressing my rage. I just endured "The Trick" and a propaganda movie sorry documentary called "Climategate science of a scandal".

So the criminal fraudsters at the heart of this substituted the temperature data for the tree ring proxy data for the most recent part of the graph, to maintain the hockey stick for all curves. And the Liberals were oh so pleased with themselves to repeatedly point out that the tree ring proxy date does not mean the claimed warming in recent years didn't happen.

If I was to be generous I'd say there was at most about two minutes worth of science in the film and the documentary put together. Yes retard we get that the thing that was hidden was not a fall in recent temperatures, but a fall in the temperatures extrapolated from the tree ring data proxy. No retard we don't think that the tree ring data means there has been a fall in recent temperatures. It is of course evidence of such a fall, but its pretty weak evidence when in conflict with the numerous more direct methods of measuring temperature.

No the point is, that if the tree ring proxy is inaccurate in the recent past it may be inaccurate in the far less recent past. If the tree ring data failed to represent "unprecedented global warming" in the recent past it may not represent "unprecedented global warming" in the far less recent past. the recent unprecedented global warming may not be unprecedented at all. just because the end of the hockey stick is accurate in absolute temperatures, doesn't mean the hockey stick isn't a lie, because its relative to warming in the past which can not be measured directly.

Now I'm not a climate scientist, but I would be very surprised if the tree ring proxies have not been used in the calibration of other temperature proxies. Undermining the even longer time period hockey stick claims as well.

Because none of this is about the climate.

Climate change, national health insurance, "science" education, lockdowns and wokeness are all about ONE THING. Monetizing these "causes" to take money from one group and give it to another group. This is not about science. It's about politicizing science for wealth redistribution.

[Pants-of-dog]

Because none of this is about the climate.

Climate change, national health insurance, "science" education, lockdowns and wokeness are all about ONE THING. Monetizing these "causes" to take money from one group and give it to another group. This is not about science. It's about politicizing science for wealth redistribution.

I doubt this is true.

This seems like the type of myth that conservatives tell each other through YouTube videos.

[late]

Because none of this is about the climate.

Climate change, national health insurance, "science" education, lockdowns and wokeness are all about ONE THING. Monetizing these "causes" to take money from one group and give it to another group. This is not about science. It's about politicizing science for wealth redistribution.

Face it, swabbie, you don't understand anything. You're just a simple parrot repeating nonsense from places you don't want to tell us about. Because we'd laugh.

The government research facility, DARPA, and Big Oil, both found warming all the way back in the 1970s. You know, when you were swabbing decks. Science since then has only confirmed those findings.

Btw, your video doesn't support your goofiness, it literally doesn't say a word. Did you even look at it before you linked it???

[MrWonderful]

"Facts have a well known liberal bias." - late

Poor people have been voting Democrat for fifty years and they're still poor. - Sir Charles Barkley

Look at the imbecile currently in the White House, so proudly elected by the same party that formed to preserve slavery in the south - the same party that proudly elected a blatant racist and former Ku Klux Klansman to the United States Senate - the same party whose president, LBJ, bragged, "I'll have them ni&&ers voting Democrat for the next 200 years."

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” – Ottmar Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015

The UN’s climate czarina, Christiana Figueres, has also been quite vocal in explaining that the UN’s imposing climate change agenda extends far beyond mere environmental concerns:
“It must be understood that what is occurring here, not just in Doha, but in the whole climate change process is a complete transformation of the economic structure of the world.”
“The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.” – Kevin Trenbarth, IPCC lead author on physical science, regarding the pause in measured warming from 1999 t0 2009

“The inconvenient truth is that it’s not about carbon – it’s about capitalism. … we can seize this existential crisis to transform our failed economic system and build something radically better [socialism, of course].” – Naomi Klein, This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate


The ONLY country on earth now classified as "sustainable" is Cuba. Is that how you Leftists want to live? In abject poverty and desperation? Move to Havana please.

[MrWonderful]

No Leftists have expressed their desire to move to "sustainable" Cuba.
Quelle surprise. Hypocrites like Al Gore. Like Barack Obama. Like Michael Bloomberg.
Like the Hollywood Ignorati.

What's America's LEAST favorite vegetable? It used to be brussel sprouts. Today it's Joe Biden.

[BlutoSays]

A lot of what winds me up in not what forum members say but what I have to endure from Liberal media, so apologies upfront for expressing my rage. I just endured "The Trick" and a propaganda movie sorry documentary called "Climategate science of a scandal".

So the criminal fraudsters at the heart of this substituted the temperature data for the tree ring proxy data for the most recent part of the graph, to maintain the hockey stick for all curves. And the Liberals were oh so pleased with themselves to repeatedly point out that the tree ring proxy date does not mean the claimed warming in recent years didn't happen.

If I was to be generous I'd say there was at most about two minutes worth of science in the film and the documentary put together. Yes retard we get that the thing that was hidden was not a fall in recent temperatures, but a fall in the temperatures extrapolated from the tree ring data proxy. No retard we don't think that the tree ring data means there has been a fall in recent temperatures. It is of course evidence of such a fall, but its pretty weak evidence when in conflict with the numerous more direct methods of measuring temperature.

No the point is, that if the tree ring proxy is inaccurate in the recent past it may be inaccurate in the far less recent past. If the tree ring data failed to represent "unprecedented global warming" in the recent past it may not represent "unprecedented global warming" in the far less recent past. the recent unprecedented global warming may not be unprecedented at all. just because the end of the hockey stick is accurate in absolute temperatures, doesn't mean the hockey stick isn't a lie, because its relative to warming in the past which can not be measured directly.

Now I'm not a climate scientist, but I would be very surprised if the tree ring proxies have not been used in the calibration of other temperature proxies. Undermining the even longer time period hockey stick claims as well.

Trust me like this comes from the burning bush: Climate change has nothing to do with climate change. Nationalized health care has nothing to do with health care. These are all about FORCING overarching policy to redistribute income from one group to a "preferred group" by creating jobs through artificial demand where there is no natural demand for the product/service. These are political ideologies of convenience and they are not about science or sound policy.

They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. It's just not polite to state it out loud.

[pugsville]

Trust me like this comes from the burning bush: Climate change has nothing to do with climate change. Nationalized health care has nothing to do with health care. These are all about FORCING overarching policy to redistribute income from one group to a "preferred group" by creating jobs through artificial demand where there is no natural demand for the product/service. These are political ideologies of convenience and they are not about science or sound policy.

They know it, we know it, everyone knows it. It's just not polite to state it out loud.

There is no topic of debate, no area of policy that conservatives cannot avoid by making false claims.

They remain useful idiots for the 1%.

[BlutoSays]

"The average sticker price on an electric car is $19,000 higher than an average gasoline-powered vehicle." - Natural Resources Defense Council

Source: https://www.nrdc.org/stories/electric-v ... r-drive-ev


So whilst you're hand wringing about the poors, good luck on getting them to spring for the initial downpayment to buy it in the first place.
Yeah... that's before the financing for 15 years and the bar they need to clear to do that. $19,000 extra plus interest payments.

Reality: it is a bitch.

[Potemkin]

"The average sticker price on an electric car is $19,000 higher than an average gasoline-powered vehicle." - Natural Resources Defense Council

Source: https://www.nrdc.org/stories/electric-v ... r-drive-ev


So whilst you're hand wringing about the poors, good luck on getting them to spring for the initial downpayment to buy it in the first place.
Yeah... that's before the financing for 15 years and the bar they need to clear to do that. $19,000 extra plus interest payments.

Reality: it is a bitch.

The purpose of electric cars is to enable the rich to feel good about themselves for “saving the planet” while still being able to show off their latest eye-wateringly expensive “supercar”. They have no other purpose that I can see.

[Patrickov]

"The average sticker price on an electric car is $19,000 higher than an average gasoline-powered vehicle." - Natural Resources Defense Council

Source: https://www.nrdc.org/stories/electric-v ... r-drive-ev


So whilst you're hand wringing about the poors, good luck on getting them to spring for the initial downpayment to buy it in the first place.
Yeah... that's before the financing for 15 years and the bar they need to clear to do that. $19,000 extra plus interest payments.

Reality: it is a bitch.

You seem to project the price to stay the same or even increase in the future.

Even if it is true, those who focus on a solution would instead advocate and / or actually find ways so that such prices can actually be lowered.

You effectively made the same mistake as socialists (as demonstrated by @Potemkin above), in that both of you believe the policy makers are malicious but your solutions do not actually tackle the problem you raise. (and in socialists' case they, similar to your claim in a previous post, had ulterior motives that destroy the society more than their enemies, making their enemies actually a better choice)

[BlutoSays]

[pugsville]

how do you manage to use computers? Do you have a personal assistant?

[BlutoSays]

Now who is banking on the benevolence of nature? Tipping points in the climate system definitely have the potential to wipe out humanity.

Oh yes. It's gonna be hell on some people.

[Pants-of-dog]

@BlutoSays

Yes, wealthy US residents with expensive homes on the water will definitely feel the consequences of US pollution.

[BlutoSays]

@BlutoSays

Yes, wealthy US residents with expensive homes on the water will definitely feel the consequences of US pollution.

Or not. Say whatever you have to in order to get more free shit for the free shit army.