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The average IQ in sub-Saharan Africa is around 69 to 76.

Koko the Gorilla had a measured IQ of about 65 to 75.


The average IQ of African Pygmies (Mbuti ethnicity) is about 59.
(The average height of an adult male in this group is 4 feet 8 inches (143 cm) )

The average IQ of Australian aborigines (with no mixed white ancestry) was estimated at slightly above 62. Other studies estimate it at slightly below 69.

The average IQ in the Solomon Islands, which is made up of mostly Australoid people closely related to the Australian aborigine, is slightly below 84. This is similar to the island of Fiji.
It is possible these islands had a very negligible admixture of Polynesian ancestry into their gene pools.

In Papua New Guinea it's 78.5

The IQ in Indonesia was measured to be 87.
(source: National IQs calculated and validated for 108 nations. Lynn, R. and Meisenberg, G. Intelligence, 38, 353–360 , 2010 )
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old money

Idiots. —Those so defective that their mental development never exceeds that of a normal child of about two years.

Imbeciles. —Those whose development is higher than that of an idiot, but whose intelligence does not exceed that of a normal child of about seven years.

Morons. —Those whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years.


— Edmund Burke Huey, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, 1912

IQ

In the early part of this century people differentiated between idiots, imbeciles, and morons, depending on the extent of their mental retardation, with the moron being the least severely involved.

With the introduction of the intelligence test, developed by Binet in France, and brought to this country
[America] by Goddard, it became an accepted practice to relate these three terms to specific I.Q. scores—idiot for those scoring below 25, imbecile 25 to 50, and moron 50-70/75. Later on the terms "severe," "moderate," and "mild" replaced those terms, but conceptually no change occurred.

— Whom Do We Call Mentally Retarded? by Gunnar Dybwad
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Puffer Fish wrote:The average IQ in sub-Saharan Africa is around 69 to 76.

Koko the Gorilla had a measured IQ of about 65 to 75.

The average IQ of African Pygmies (Mbuti ethnicity) is about 59.
(The average height of an adult male in this group is 4 feet 8 inches (143 cm) )

The average IQ of Australian aborigines (with no mixed white ancestry) was estimated at slightly above 62. Other studies estimate it at slightly below 69.

The average IQ in the Solomon Islands, which is made up of mostly Australoid people closely related to the Australian aborigine, is slightly below 84. This is similar to the island of Fiji.
It is possible these islands had a very negligible admixture of Polynesian ancestry into their gene pools.

In Papua New Guinea it's 78.5

The IQ in Indonesia was measured to be 87.
(source: National IQs calculated and validated for 108 nations. Lynn, R. and Meisenberg, G. Intelligence, 38, 353–360 , 2010 )

While I have no objection to intelligence measurement in principle ("If you can't measure it, you can't manage it." -- Peter Drucker), I am aware that almost all "intelligence" tests to date have substantial cultural components, and am consequently highly skeptical of those numbers. I don't know how they measured Koko's IQ, but I am confident they did not use a standard IQ test. Standard IQ tests don't differentiate very well even among people raised in the same culture. For example, a black American child who scores at 70 on a typical IQ test is normally functional in the classroom and on the playground, while a white American child who scores at 70 on the same test is not. Until we understand what is going on with results like that, a healthy skepticism is in order.

Intelligence is the ability to understand. But I have little doubt that ChatGPT would ace a typical intelligence test, and it doesn't understand anything. It's just very good at filling in the blanks. We ordinarily have the idea that if you can predict a phenomenon reliably, that means you understand it; but ChatGPT puts paid to that notion. It seems to be extremely difficult to devise a measurement of intelligence that differentiates well between more and less intelligent people, and also differentiates well between more and less intelligent animals and computers.
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You are throwing out numbers as if they mean anything in isolation. A psychologist who condusts such assessments often has a very detailed breakdown of what the g-factor is as well as subcomponents.

And if I google say your cited stat for the IQ of Australians, all that pops up is results tied to Richard Lynn, whose career has been mired in 'scientific' racism, or more accurately, abusing the authority and appeal of science to push his racist conclusions.
This would suggest why you don't actually cite anything.
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Hakeer wrote:Putin will put those North Koreans on the front lines to absorb bullets.
IQ doesn’t matter.


This are North-Korean special forces (the moderne Sparta. Sparta was also poorer then the other Greek states therefore they could not travel not to see the luxury of the other states)


The most economical way would be mass liquidation of weak humans and euthanasia. This practice occurred probably with the Yamnaya/Aryans in hole of Europe, even the so civilized Romans did it (euthanasia was a law), with the arrival of the Abrahamitic religions like Christianity this practice ended. The Sand-N***s Jews, Arabs Kurds... have still incest (a Rothschild girl had to marry her uncle), whereas by the European hunters and gatherers (who had dark skin and blue eyes) was incest taboo.


NAZI-style Euthanasia is not gentlemen like.

Sociologists say a population needs 3 Generations of literacy to enfold its full potential (I would add enough protein to increase intellect) This planet has a problem overpopulation especially the illiterate girls become early mothers (even in theocratic Iran where 2/3 of University students are female they have a population stabile 2.14 children, 2.1 are needed to maintain)... In some states they have a hole Basketball team inclusive reserve (up to 8 children per woman in average), therefore I would never donate.


I would propose max. 3 children per woman, mandatory diagnostics before birth (most genetic illness can be detected) and sterilization injections of the stupid and physically weak. It should be a privilege to have descendants on a planet with limited resources!



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