Atlantis wrote:You are arguing from an ideological point of view which ignores real-politics.
Pfft.
First of all, of course I have an ideology. Everbody has one. Yes, even you.
Your "real-politics" turn out to be nothing but irrelevant propaganda statements.
You use the oldest trick of every ideologist: claiming to be in posession of the truth, and not actually having any ideology themselves.
Atlantis wrote:The Social Democrats got rid of class struggle and other ideological baggage back in 1959 in Bad Godesberg. Thus, by a hard left definition, all Social Democrats are traitors.
The social democrats are traitors, which is a popular saying, because they violated the interests of their voters on multiple occasions, starting with supporting WW1, but also with Schröders destruction of the social state.
Technicalities like the one you mentioned are grossly irrelevant.
Whats relevant, whats "real-politics", is what actually happends, not some statements somewhere.
Besides, the SPD officially claimed they wanted a democratic socialism until after Schröder.
Atlantis wrote:Germany firmly accepted the social market economy which is quite distinct from US/UK capitalism. To throw everything into the same hat really is pointless.
No.
But you have clearly not even the slightest hint of knowledge about economics, so I will just stop commenting.
Atlantis wrote:Schroeder was pro-industry because Germany is an industrial country.
As I already said, Schröder massively destroyed small businesses, he made selling companies tax free - which is why large potions of the german industry are now owned by the USA - and he gave large companies massive tax cuts.
There is nothing "pro industry" about that, whatever this retarded term is even supposed to mean. This directly rams up the wealth of the already super wealthy. Nothing else.
A developing country lacks investment power.
A highly industrialized country like Germany does not lack investment power, but investment chances. Ramping up the wealth of the already wealthy doesnt help the industry one bit. Ramping up the income of average people would actually create investment chances, thus increase economic power.
But neoliberalism - the current economic ideology - does the opposite, because thats in the interest of the already superrich.
Atlantis wrote:Schroeder was also strongly in favour of improved relations with Russia. [blablabla]
The rest of your posting is irrelevant, since I never said otherwise. Obviously Schröder has ended up working for Gasprom, so yes he was friendly with the russians. Everyone was, until about 2013. In 2014 they did the coup in Ukraine and thats when the tone started to change. The USA again needed an enemy to justify their riddiculous military expenses. That Russia decided to invade Ukraine is a huge win for the USA.
There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning. - Warren Buffett