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#14771400
3) Ainu people were the first people in Japan.
The so called "Japanese" invaded Japan.
Ainu people were killed or enslaved.
Ainu people - Wikipedia


The modern Japanese population is genetically around 30%-40% Ainu or Jomon and the Ainu or Emishi had not been entirely exterminated. The Japanese people who currently live in the northern parts of Japan have deep Ainu ancestry and they were culturally integrated in the last 1,300 years. Historical records also show that there was a strong Emishi resistance movement and Emishi tribes in the north who resisted the central authority in Kyoto had been relocated to other regions. The Yayoi invaders from the Korean Peninsula introduced rice farming and other high cultures, which befitted the first people of Japan, who were still living like hunter-gatherers in the 3rd Century BC.

The amount of genetic contribution from the Jomon people varied among the Japanese Archipelago populations (Figures 2b and 3a and Supplementary Figure S15). The Ainu and the Ryukyuan share more alleles with the Jomon than the mainland Japanese, suggesting smaller genetic contributions from continental populations in those two populations than for the mainland Japanese, in agreement with previous findings.1, 2, 4, 13, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50 This supports the dual-structure model of Hanihara,3, 50 which is a widely accepted theory that explains the history of the three current populations that inhabit the Japanese Archipelago, and which predicts that the mainland Japanese are more admixed with agricultural continental people than the Ainu and the Ryukyuan, with major admixture occurring in and after the Yayoi period.

Jinam et al.2 recently estimated the proportion of the Jomon ancestry in the mainland Japanese using the f4-ratio test35 under a specified phylogenetic scenario. The estimated proportion of Jomon ancestry differs depending on the compared populations and were within the range of 13–21%. Jinam et al.2 also used ADMIXTURE60 and found that the mainland Japanese was best explained by two ancestry components. One of them has very high proportions in many Ainu individuals, and is considered to be Jomon ancestry if we assume that the Ainu people are largely descendants of the Jomon. The average proportion of this Jomon component in the mainland Japanese was 17%, which is within the range of f4-ratio test results.2 The same genome-wide SNP data were also used for ABC analysis, and the highest likelihood model estimated the admixture proportion from the Jomon ancestry to the mainland Japanese to be 36% (22–53%, 95% confidence interval).50 We used TreeMix for estimating Jomon ancestry proportions in this study, and the frequency was 12% as shown in Figure 4. We note that it is possible that the frequency was underestimated if the Jomon people had some population substructure and the northern Jomon including the Sanganji Jomon only indirectly contributed to the modern Japanese, and/or if there are contamination during experiments from the Japanese Archipelago populations. Previously, the proportion of the Jomon component in the modern mainland Japanese was estimated to be 35% based on partial mtDNA sequences of modern human populations46 and 23–40% based on application of a demographic model of population admixture.61 Although the Jomon admixture proportion is still debatable, we would like to conclude that the Jomon component in the mainland Japanese is probably lower than 20%.

http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/vaop/ ... 6110a.html


2) Then Mongol invaded China, Japan, Vietnam, Burma, Java.
At the time Mongol was weaker, Mongols only defeated China.
Kublai Khan was the Mongol ruler of China.



The Mongols had never set their feet on Japan, prevented by freak weather conditions. Without the "divine intervention" or freak typhoons, which sank hundreds of Mongol transport ships loaded with tens of thousands of Mongol soldiers, Japan would have been conquered by the Mongol Empire. Japan got a lucky break from being invaded by the world's most ferocious army which would have killed millions upon landing on Japan's shores. As a result, the legend of the ancient kamikazes (divine winds) was born, which was later exploited by the Japanese militarists who misleadingly believed that Japan would never be invaded by foreign forces.

An ancient story tells of the kamikaze, or "divine wind," that twice saved Japan from Kublai Khan's Mongol fleets. So powerful was the legend that centuries later thousands of World War II pilots known as kamikazes would sign up to protect Japan again, by crashing their planes in suicide missions.

Now University of Massachusetts Amherst geologist Jon Woodruff says he has uncovered evidence of some truth to the legend of the ancient kamikazes, typhoon-strength winds that saved Japan from Kublai Khan in the 13th century.

Woodruff traveled halfway around the world to find evidence of the winds in Japanese lake beds, near the site of shipwrecks thought to be part of Kublai Khan's sunken armada.

"This is one of the earliest historical examples of atmospheric and oceanic conditions having a significant geopolitical impact," says Woodruff. Not until the 20th century would Japan have to defend its borders from a foreign power again.

In the 13th century, Genghis Khan's grandson Kublai Khan had already conquered much of China and hoped to expand his Mongolian empire. To attack Kyushu, the southernmost of the four main Japanese islands, he amassed an enormous fleet of Chinese and Korean ships. It was one of the largest armadas the world has ever seen, with more than 140,000 sailors, according to Woodruff.

Yet twice, in 1274 and 1281, Kublai sent his overwhelming forces across the Korea Strait, and twice his fleet was destroyed. Legend has it that Khan's ships were sunk when an emperor summoned two massive storms, the kamikazes.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... -invasion/
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#14771404
1) Chinese declare that the Chinese treasure ship was the most advanced ship hundreds years ago.
It was a punt ship. It was not advanced.
Chinese treasure ship - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He
over 150 years before Europeans managed to travel such long distances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_voyages

2)The great (Chinese) ming dynasty was defeated by Manchus.
1 million Manchus VS 100 million Chinese.


Do you know how to read ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasties ... se_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China

There is no such thing as a fucking Manchu people. Its what the Japanese called the chinese people living in north east China.
Even themselves, people living there, don't call them selves that.
It was a change of dynasties not a conquest.
#14771408
anasawad wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He
over 150 years before Europeans managed to travel such long distances.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_voyages



Do you know how to read ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasties ... se_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China

There is no such thing as a fucking Manchu people. Its what the Japanese called the chinese people living in north east China.
Even themselves, people living there, don't call them selves that.
It was a change of dynasties not a conquest.


If you want to make yourself a fool here, it is ok.
- over 150 years before Europeans managed to travel such long distances.
European did this over 1000 years ago.

You said that: There was NO Manchus, Its what he Japanese called the chinese people living in north east China.

I guess you want to re-write history.
Do you know people read more books than you do??
Do you know that People can ask a Japanese.?

You are a pure joke.
#14771411
read the sources i put.
It public info. You're the one who's trying to fucken rewrite history. You're the one who cant read.
You're the one making yourself look like a fool here.


europeans traveled long distances in the end of the 15th century. Chinese voyages were at late 14th century.
#14771414
anasawad wrote:You fucken retard, read the sources i put.
It public info. You're the one who's trying to fucken rewrite history. You're the one who cant read.
You're the one making yourself look like a fool here.


europeans traveled long distances in the end of the 15th century. Chinese voyages were at late 14th century.



anasawad, you are an idiot, people believe you are a fool.
You know you are not smart.

1) The Chinese invention are jokes.

China entered metal age 1000 years later than Middle East, Europe, South Asia.
Bronze Age, Wikipedia

China entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East.
At the time, European used iron tools, Chinese used primitive tools.
Iron Age - Wikipedia


Italy invented the compass.
The pointer of the ancient Chinese compass was as big as a spoon.
The spoon was put on a board, with nothing else.

Compass, Wikipedia
History of the compass, Wikipedia, (Chinese Compass "Si Nan", photo)

2) Hundreds years ago, European fleets went to china, and took the Chinese city Macau as their base.
Hundreds years ago, European fleets went to Asia, and ruled Philippines.
European knew that China was vert backward.
- “The Spanish Plan to Conquer China”.

3) Chinese declare that the Chinese treasure ship was the most advanced ship hundreds years ago.
It was a punt ship. It was not advanced.
Chinese treasure ship - Wikipedia


4) Then you "great" China was enslaved by Manchus.

China was ruled by Manchus for 300 years till 1911.
The population rate was 1 million Manchus VS 100 million Chinese.
Manchu conquest of China - Wikipedia

Manchus had the right of the first night in China.

Queue Order
When the Manchus defeated China, Chinese men were forced to wear a queue or they would be killed.


Photo: The Manchurian army which conquered China, and ruled China for 300 years till 1911. IMAO.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... d_City.jpg

Before Mongols, China was enslaved by Jurchen .
Men of Chinese royal family were sold into slavery in exchange for horses with a ratio of ten men for one horse.
Chinese Queen was forced to work in whore house.
Jingkang Incident - Wikipedia

The population rate was less than 1 million jurchens VS 100 millions Chinese.

Chinese population was over 100 million before Mongol invasion.
At the time of Marco Polo, 100 million Chinese were enslaved by 300,000 Mongols.

Mongol Invasion
1) Mongols invaded Europe first and went back.

The Mongol Army invaded Europe was the most powerful Mongolian army, which commanded by Batu Khan.
Mongols did not rule any European countries,
Mongols indirectly ruled Muscovy.
Muscovy still had it own ruler.

2) Then Mongol invaded China, Japan, Vietnam, Burma, Java.
At the time Mongol was weaker, Mongols only defeated China.

Kublai Khan was the Mongol ruler of China.

Chinese were the lowest class citizens in Mongol Empire (4th class).


A Brief Guide To Early Chinese History: The Mongol Conquest Of China And Its Consequences. By George Tait Edwards.
China - A Short Cultural History. By C.P Fitzgerald, Century Hutchinson.

"...According to the Chinese history not more than one hundredth part of the population survived, the countryside was covered with human bones, the cities left desolate..."

anasawad must get nothing to say anymore. lol

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