Stuie Smiley wrote:have you ever hear of the gold that was hidden in nazi trains that where give by the queen and vatican to the third reich ?
Ever hear that we never really landed on the moon, and that it was all an elaborate hollywood plot? Yeah me too, doesn't make it any more than a conspiracy theory. Despite what you may have read or heard, the Catholic Church was one of the most outspoken objectors to Hitler and his regime. All of this garbage about "Hitler's Pope" is nothing more than rhetoric and misunderstanding of Church Policy.
Our governments imprison people without trial or with false evidence; they execute people, assassinate others, make war, seize assets and effectively imprison their citizens economically and politically by milking them endlessly, while exercising absolute surveillance and control over almost every activity.
Read this very slowly and very carefully: Hitler attempted to eradicate numerous ethnic groups from the face of the planet for no reason other than they were different than him. There was no false evidence, there was no bogus charges, there was just the simple reason that they were Jewish, Gypsies, Russians, Catholics, whatever, that was enough to sentence them to death. If you can't see the difference between that and even the worst government in the world today, then you are quite simply ignorant.
A million people a year die in the western world from poverty, illness and despair because they are unable to cope with the rules of our modern society, which in effect is a prisoner of war camp.
First of all, no it is not "in effect" a POW camp. Dying of starvation for whatever reason is fundamentally different than being put into a cyanide gas chamber and having to claw over the corpse of your just dead father to reach your last breath of air. There is a HUGE difference there. Second of all, under no circumstances, ever, were the Jews allowed to survive in the Concentration Camps. For as bad as poverty gets, especially in America, there is always that chance that you can work your way up to prosperity (don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that everybody will do this, but for every human being, there is that chance).
I think Hitler was a tyrant, but I don't know that he was. I wasn't alive, I have no first hand information and you can't trust history books.
You can trust the survivors, the guys with the numbers tatooed on their arms that saw more horrors in 5 years than any human should ever have to even think about. This is not some myth that was fabricated to form sympathy for the Jews, this was a very real, very evil campaign.
How do we know that Hitler wasn't sent by God to sort out the Russian Communist Party and the European elite?
Perhaps God saw how nasty our egocentric societies would become, and he-she-it decided to have a little clean-up campaign, so that our societies wouldn't become quite as nasty quite as quickly. The weird thing is you can't say.
By putting the second biggest bunch of assholes this planet has ever seen in charge? I'm sorry, I don't know of any faith that would say God attempted to fix a society that was steadily declining downhill by putting the end result in charge. That's, among other things, terrible planning.
It's not all black and white. grey is the color of choice in heaven. "I don't know" is the correct answer to God's survey. Black and white is a very dangerous game for it allows us to hide our crimes under a cloak of righteousness. But worse than that, it allows us to set ourselves up as would-be gods, dispensing justice in our minds with no real facts, or holding cut and dry opinions as truth, which often turn out to be lies manufactured for us by others, as in the example of Pearl Harbor.
With the Nazi's, it's one of the few cases that it WAS very black and white. Basing moral, physical, spiritual, and economic superiority on nothing more than an accident of birth is evil. Period.
"Never put passions ahead of principles. Even if you win, you lose."
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