- 29 Dec 2015 19:04
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Conservative liberals like you deny being liberal. What is wrong with the OP?
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Dagoth Ur wrote:Op literally says: "why american conservatives deny that they are idelogical liberals?"
Socks: "why are you conflating different things?"
Everybody else: "kek"
so_crates wrote:So where is "everybody else" and why aren't they showing me the flaw in my reasoning?
I'm more of a rad trad and can't really debate with people. They generally have no idea where I'm coming from and get really upset and confused if I win an argument.
mikema63 wrote:The definition of ideological liberalism is not relegated to 18th century franc, it's quite current and applicable.
so_crates wrote:It further shows a flaw in reasoning.
It take a couple of characteristics both share and then tries to conflate both.
A dog has fur, a tail, and four legs
A cat has fur, a tail, and four legs
So we should call cats dogs
This is illogical, even though both are in a metaset called mammals and another called animals
Lutherans worship in churches, sing hymns, and believe in Jesus Christ
Catholics worship in churches, sing hymns, and believe in Jesus Christ
So Lutherans are Catholics.
This is illogical even though both belong in a metaset called religion.
A Chevy has a motor, brakes, and four tires
A Ford has a motor, brakes, and four tires
So a Chevy is a Ford.
This is illogical even though both belong in a metaset called automobiles, then another called machines.
A man has two eyes, two hands, and a heart.
A woman has two eyes, two hands, and a heart.
So we should call women men.
This is illogical even though both belong to metaset called humans, then primates, then mammals, then animals
See the flaw?
Dagoth Ur wrote:Most Americans do have a cursory knowledge of the bill of rights and basic liberal tenets. - a testament to the fact that political education in America is basically nonexistent - the laughable idea that liberalism doesn't have a contemporary modern American context.
so_crates wrote:Apparently you didn't read my post.
...Jeffersonian Republican as that's where the Democrats were formed.
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