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The Hill put out an opinion article about how the U.S. has an obligation to take in migrants from Venezuela.
It was written by Democrat U.S. House representative Adriano Espaillat.

We must preserve the American dream for Venezuelans , Opinion, Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D-N.Y.), The Hill, September 20, 2023

Let me copy some excerpts:

" We must preserve the American dream for Venezuelans

As a nation founded by immigrants seeking freedom from oppression, the United States of America bears an important and uniquely inherent responsibility to help immigrants obtain refuge from dire situations across the globe. This is especially true for the people of Venezuela, where, according to the United Nations Refugee Agency, the Venezuelan exodus of the past few years represents a quarter of Venezuela's entire population. This constitutes the world’s second-largest refugee crisis, and it has led many Venezuelans to search for refuge here in the United States.

Several prominent cities throughout the U.S. have received this ongoing migration flow from the region. In my home city of New York, we have welcomed over 110,000 new immigrants since the Spring of 2022, and roughly 41 percent of these new arrivals are of Venezuelan descent."

He goes on in the article to argue that the New York needs lots of funding from the federal government to help pay for these migrants and that the migrants should automatically get permits to work as soon as they arrive, instead of having to wait 6 months like current federal law requires.

"Temporary Protected Status (TPS) is a program that allows all immigrants from specific countries, as designated by the DHS, who are experiencing armed conflict or other extraordinary circumstances to receive temporary protection from deportation in the United States."​

So he wants the Biden Administration to use its executive power to treat all the migrants fleeing Venezuela as if they were special refugees fleeing political persecution.

"As Americans, our obligation to these migrants and their families also goes beyond mere financial considerations--it is moral as well, and redesignating Venezuelan migrants for TPS is simply the right thing to do. The last couple of years has seen hundreds of thousands Venezuelan migrants--often families with children--cross rivers, scale mountains, and traverse the dangerous "Darien Gap" in Panama to reach safety in the U.S. To treat these migrants, who have traveled thousands of miles to live and work here, with anything other than the utmost compassion would be to disrespect the American dream. Allowing newly arrived Venezuelan migrants the ability to work, support their families, and live without fear of deportation via a TPS redesignation is an easy way for the DHS to help cities better address the current influx of migrants and help us remember who we are as Americans. Venezuelan families just want to put a roof over their heads and live safely. Is that too much to ask?"


I find it highly ironic that people in the Left would be telling the U.S. they have an obligation to take in migrants, when what those migrants are fleeing from are disastrous political Left Socialist policies, which have ruined the economy of that country.

Does this Left-leaning Democrat mean that, "to preserve the American dream for Venezuelans", Americans should make sure the U.S. never falls into totalitarian Socialism, like Venezuela has?

Immigrants keep coming from other impoverished and troubled parts of the world, but how long until all those immigrants make the U.S. become just like all those other troubled countries the immigrants originally fled from in the first place?
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Puffer Fish wrote:
The Hill put out an opinion article about how the U.S. has an obligation to take in migrants from Venezuela.
It was written by Democrat U.S. House representative Adriano Espaillat.

We must preserve the American dream for Venezuelans , Opinion, Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D-N.Y.), The Hill, September 20, 2023

Let me copy some excerpts:

" We must preserve the American dream for Venezuelans

As a nation founded by immigrants seeking freedom from oppression, the United States of America bears an important and uniquely inherent responsibility to help immigrants obtain refuge from dire situations across the globe. This is especially true for the people of Venezuela, where, according to the United Nations Refugee Agency, the Venezuelan exodus of the past few years represents a quarter of Venezuela's entire population. This constitutes the world’s second-largest refugee crisis, and it has led many Venezuelans to search for refuge here in the United States.

Several prominent cities throughout the U.S. have received this ongoing migration flow from the region. In my home city of New York, we have welcomed over 110,000 new immigrants since the Spring of 2022, and roughly 41 percent of these new arrivals are of Venezuelan descent."

He goes on in the article to argue that the New York needs lots of funding from the federal government to help pay for these migrants and that the migrants should automatically get permits to work as soon as they arrive, instead of having to wait 6 months like current federal law requires.

"Temporary Protected Status (TPS) is a program that allows all immigrants from specific countries, as designated by the DHS, who are experiencing armed conflict or other extraordinary circumstances to receive temporary protection from deportation in the United States."​

So he wants the Biden Administration to use its executive power to treat all the migrants fleeing Venezuela as if they were special refugees fleeing political persecution.

"As Americans, our obligation to these migrants and their families also goes beyond mere financial considerations--it is moral as well, and redesignating Venezuelan migrants for TPS is simply the right thing to do. The last couple of years has seen hundreds of thousands Venezuelan migrants--often families with children--cross rivers, scale mountains, and traverse the dangerous "Darien Gap" in Panama to reach safety in the U.S. To treat these migrants, who have traveled thousands of miles to live and work here, with anything other than the utmost compassion would be to disrespect the American dream. Allowing newly arrived Venezuelan migrants the ability to work, support their families, and live without fear of deportation via a TPS redesignation is an easy way for the DHS to help cities better address the current influx of migrants and help us remember who we are as Americans. Venezuelan families just want to put a roof over their heads and live safely. Is that too much to ask?"


I find it highly ironic that people in the Left would be telling the U.S. they have an obligation to take in migrants, when what those migrants are fleeing from are disastrous political Left Socialist policies, which have ruined the economy of that country.

Does this Left-leaning Democrat mean that, "to preserve the American dream for Venezuelans", Americans should make sure the U.S. never falls into totalitarian Socialism, like Venezuela has?

Immigrants keep coming from other impoverished and troubled parts of the world, but how long until all those immigrants make the U.S. become just like all those other troubled countries the immigrants originally fled from in the first place?



Interesting, the Hill is usually Right wing.

It is fortunate we need immigrants, what is regrettable is that there are millions more that would like to come than what we can absorb.

I'd say we do have an obligation to the extent we caused the mess. It's not just climate change, the Drug War has stressed most of the countries south of the border.

We have also been mindlessly against the Left. That is just plain numb...

But we can do things like end the Drug War and have policies that don't attack our neighbors...
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late wrote:
Interesting, the Hill is usually Right wing.

It is fortunate we need immigrants, what is regrettable is that there are millions more that would like to come than what we can absorb.

I'd say we do have an obligation to the extent we caused the mess. It's not just climate change, the Drug War has stressed most of the countries south of the border.

We have also been mindlessly against the Left. That is just plain numb...

But we can do things like end the Drug War and have policies that don't attack our neighbors...


agree
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Rancid wrote:agree


Drug dealers are the ultimate capitalists. La Nueva Generación Drug Cartel employs more people in México than Oxxo convenience stores. (Those are like the Mexican version of Seven Eleven stores), that are on almost every corner of almost every town. Why do they get the recruits eh? They lose a lot of those people to violence. Violent deaths. They need to replace them. How do they keep resupplying themselves? By paying them the equivalent of $1500 US Dollars a month. That is a fortune for a Mexican peasant without any means of making a decent living. And well worth the risk if you are struggling to buy a bag of beans and some new appliances for your aging mother at home.

Poverty makes the LNG gang always evergreen, and renewing itself.

You got to attack the core of the issue. Poverty and lack of decent wages. Lack of education. Lack of real opportunities. Not only in Mexican urban centers but in the rural townships too.

But if you got a huge group of people living in desperation and corruption and being involved in drug traffic is their only hope for gaining some kind of a decent standard of living for themselves and their families? The drug war will NEVER END.

If you start investing in education, housing, and in raising wages in Latin America, Africa and South Asia and other places where stark poverty and no opportunities are the norm? You have very little interest in working for drug traffickers.

People would prefer something safer and less risky. One town in Mexico had brothels galore in the center of the little town. Some dentist from Mexico started having clients from the USA coming to get discounted dental work done. Then it grew. And grew. Soon the entire town was able to make a living off of the dental tourism industry and the brothels disappeared. People could make more money cleaning teeth, making dentures, braces, cosmetic procedures, hotel stays, food sales, and etc. Rather than with prostitution. But if the only game in town is crime or starve? Guess which one is going to be the one people are going to go into?
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@Puffer Fish There are double standards in everything. There are also valid reasons for those double standards.

They have poorer economies. They have higher birth rates. etc.

I think that most countries should be trying to SLOW immigration. We don't NEED it unless it is to keep labour costs down for the rich.
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