Political Interest wrote:
I've always viewed social justice as a reform movement within liberal capitalism rather than a revolutionary force that seeks a complete overthrow of the system.
It would explain why there was no revolution in the West. Instead of fighting for communism the Western left fought for social justice and ethnic politics. In the end they failed to establish socialism but were able to make their liberal capitalist democracies more equal.
In other contexts the fight was not for a reform of the old order but its total overthrow (China, Russia).
That's exactly what it is, and as a Marxist I have no problem with such a left wing movement in principle
. However 50 years after the 60s when we've accomplished legal equality and capitalism is leaving behind the nation, they play a key role in splitting the working class and preventing anyone from bringing the white working class to the left. They shatter the idea that the West is a meritocratic liberal-democracy of individuals, and set it up as a playing field between competing in-groups where the majority is the oppressor. Meanwhile this is to the background of globalization which is seeing the middle class and social mobility collapse and the native working class (that also happens to be the majority) endure, to the delight of bosses, competition with cheap labor.
The result is a sense of economic zero-sum game between in-groups, a soft totalitarianism in the form of PC, and a social culture war where you have 'problematic' popular demographics being condemned by the wealthier, liberal, urban and cosmopolitan elites of the country as racist, sexist, islamophobic, and so on.
The convergence between social justice warriors and liberal-capitalism is directly setting up for nationalist reaction and rejection of economic liberalism and international finance. The far-right is completely outmaneuvering the far left in seizing on the last couple years, and it's become apparent the center-left is not only the new party of big business, but has absolutely nothing to offer the (especially white) working class.
By squeezing the native working class/middle america from two sides, one from a left establishment (creating a legitimately right wing counter-culture) and one from below, the outside in-group competing for jobs and institutional and cultural power, this directly sets up for the 'beset from two sides' siege mentality that was historically key to the rise of the third position both as opposed to leftism and capitalism
mikema63 wrote:When we talk about SJW's I always feel like the category should be broken down into types. A lot of posters (just about all of them) talk about social justice as such a broad category that it essentially just means left-liberal. I'd be curious to see you guys try to break it down into more specific categories and tell us what you think of each of them.
Let's take gay marriage for instance, say someone is a gay marriage advocate and also get's annoyed when people say faggot. Surely he's in a different category than a college student demanding a trigger warning about war in a world history class. Which would be still different than a civil rights advocate suing a school district to desegregate.
When I use the word, I use it to refer to those liberals who want capitalism with a human face and to oppose Russia and Syria, but adopt leftist rhetoric on race, gender, and immigration. These people work to the benefit of globalizing capitalism and actually make money off their political careers. They criticize Bernie and socialists as being old white males, while having a base in cities (the fruit of inequality) and campuses (the epitome of privilege). They end up, quite like Eurocrats and Russian liberals, hating their own majority demographic as the rot in their democracy and holding back progress, when in reality it's their fault for not having a unifying national narrative and giving people a sense of in-group competition, and not appealing enough to working class issues that globalization has brought to the forefront by proletarianizing the middle class.
I separate this from Marxists who recognize the intersection of the color line with class and welcome such, they are not SJWs.