Godstud wrote:Women, socially, have always been expected to be more conforming to social norms, than males. They are socially pushed away from music such as Metal. Biology doesn't figure into that.
That's ludicrous. Women push to shape social norms. Metal music is loud and aggressive. It doesn't appeal to many women. It's not just the number of metal musicians, it's also the audience.
Godstud wrote:Hormones would factor in a great deal more if we didn't have an intellect that can over-ride them. That, and whether you like Metal music isn't decided by testosterone, or hormones.
Intellect doesn't override things like homosexuality. A man with a penis may prefer to have sex with another man even though his intellect tells him he can not reproduce with another man, because that is not how biology works. Intellect doesn't overcome base drives indefinitely. Otherwise, we wouldn't have things like transgender/sex reassignment surgery. The reality is that some of our behavior and preferences are hard wired.
ThirdTerm wrote:In the old days when metal music was great, we had Lita Ford. I guess females are not into this type of music in the first place, which is why there are less female singers or bands in this genre.
Lita Ford, Joan Jett, and the Runaways were pretty rare by comparison to the GoGos or the Bangles back in the day. Women tend to sing more romantic songs, and heavy metal simply doesn't fit that bill.
Julian658 wrote:In these professions women are non-existent even though the pay is not bad:
Yes. I remember in college they made us take some class about gender norming pay, and some labor-gender panel investigated and found that receptionists and HVAC personnel had about the same level of skill, but HVAC people got paid more. So they made companies increase the pay of receptionists to avoid sex discrimination lawsuits. What happened then was that it was cheaper to automate receptionists, which in turn led to a mass firing of call routers and automated phone support systems. I was working on integration systems at the time, and when the internet opened up, it became clear to me that they would outsource call centers to India because people speak English and at the time would work for 1/10th of the pay. People thought I was crazy, but it totally panned out.
Godstud wrote:Yes. Social aspects.
That explains some of it, but heavy metal is male dominant. Consider alternative music and their subculture. For example, Juggalos are fans of the Insane Clown Posse, and tend to have nearly as many women as men and plenty of self-destructive behavior.
Godstud wrote:Gender roles are not based in biology.
You mean like breastfeeding? That may be true for you, but most men cannot breast feed their babies and the reasons are biological not social.
Godstud wrote:Gender roles are not biological. They are sociological and psychological.
Welfare states are reaching their limits. Women do not necessarily want to leave the home, be away from their children, and be forced to work for money. Trying to force science into a subordinate role for politicians and bankers isn't going to change reality. It's just going to maximize pressure for change toward a more gender stable society and away from the freakery being pushed today.
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