- 14 Feb 2021 03:34
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Well just *saying* something doesn't carry much currency with it -- you may want to address the interests of the working class for getting rid of *all* bosses, forever more.
You have to keep in mind that the 'American system' is certainly not workers-of-the-world socialism, so if the Democrats are globalists then they're *bourgeois* globalists.
Socialism, by definition, cannot be imposed from *above* -- it has to be the activity of the workers themselves, to throw off bourgeois ruling-class systems of exploitation and oppression.
Criticism of 'consumerism' is *overkill*, though, because much of the regular person's 'consumption' is for day-to-day *necessities* like food, housing, and so on. If you want to dismiss consumer consumption then you have to propose a way for people to get what they need for their daily lives, which is the situation *now* that the coronavirus makes all workplaces and schools into potentially *deadly* locations, leaving most people without reliable income for the normal practice of paying bills.
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What about hydroponics and *vertical farming* -- ?
Agriculture is no longer dependent on natural *land* or *soil*, and cell culturing is right around the corner so that we won't have to use animals for the sake of obtaining meat.
Odiseizam wrote:
Chris please I am not supporting anyhow the greedy capitalist, just saying revolution is not the solution!
Well just *saying* something doesn't carry much currency with it -- you may want to address the interests of the working class for getting rid of *all* bosses, forever more.
Odiseizam wrote:
the american system is such that there is no way out except by balancing the odds as internally so as externally, if this is not done by democrats too that will lead to economic collapse eg. they were using the lockdown hype as propaganda but actually cant impose it now when in power even as mild approach of partial lockdown ...
now, if You think that they dont want socialism as dems, You are wrong they are even for worldwide one as globalists,
You have to keep in mind that the 'American system' is certainly not workers-of-the-world socialism, so if the Democrats are globalists then they're *bourgeois* globalists.
Odiseizam wrote:
and quite a while working on the freemasonic agenda for n'w'o what probably because they lost momentum with Trump wont happen nor quickly or with any lasting effects !
now we can hope that they will awake to the fact that their elitist ideals are exposed enough so they would start to play with open cards, after what logically whole world will come to common ground, and through un to negotiate not unilateral but multipolar new world order on socialistic premises,
Socialism, by definition, cannot be imposed from *above* -- it has to be the activity of the workers themselves, to throw off bourgeois ruling-class systems of exploitation and oppression.
Odiseizam wrote:
at least so we can save the platen from deluge, but this is almost imposible if we know that their western governed nwo agendas ideals and experiment last almost two centuries as utopian dream, and on top of that they have now the american neocon dominionists on their neck so most probable outcome will be ww3 as their response on the dead end of the western casino!in my opinion now only effective measure as humanity what we have is Christianity and revoking extra Grace in these shady times through more Inchurched Liturgical Life, but knowing how masses are lobotomized by consumerism and triviality this is somehow unreachable goal even more coz the covid-histeria, so any substantial risk management at the moment would be every society to prepare for the worst while hopping for the best ...
Criticism of 'consumerism' is *overkill*, though, because much of the regular person's 'consumption' is for day-to-day *necessities* like food, housing, and so on. If you want to dismiss consumer consumption then you have to propose a way for people to get what they need for their daily lives, which is the situation *now* that the coronavirus makes all workplaces and schools into potentially *deadly* locations, leaving most people without reliable income for the normal practice of paying bills.
Components of Social Production
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Odiseizam wrote:
think imposing rural reemigration programs backed by agro~machinery~rings and co-op's will lay ground for any type of future crisis i.e. stimulating Agrarianism immediately and thinking how masses would be cushioned for basic needs ahead because now rarely some state is selfsufficient on level of food, what about will for voluntarism or comune based care for the poor ...
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What about hydroponics and *vertical farming* -- ?
Agriculture is no longer dependent on natural *land* or *soil*, and cell culturing is right around the corner so that we won't have to use animals for the sake of obtaining meat.
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