[Zyx]

The fact is that there are bad images to put in public of yourself and while debatable this is one of them. End of discussion. The people ruled on this and she lost. She was aiming a gun at a camera. It's like holding a noose at a camera, or picking one's middle finger at the camera--it's aiming at the viewers. Alright, maybe the same thing would have happened if she were in profile--especially if the target were unknown--but the fact is that this particular image is horribly, horribly belligerent and it's very much like those who shoot up schools.

[U184]

The people ruled on this and she lost

How so? Who ruled what?


Teachers are not meant to have a personal life?

Some Teachers are GAY, some gay Teachers are GYM teachers, some are Residential Advisers at Colleges, RA's. Some Teacher teach by day and strip by night. Some Teachers are in the reserves and kill people now and again then come home and return to their job. They are allowed to do their jobs regardless of the impropriety.

People have the right to have a personal life however public in any manner they see fit. They owe no code of conduct other then what they do or do not do at work.

End of discussion.

[Zyx]

KFlint, you know as well as I do that one is not supposed to point a gun at someone. In a sense, pointing a gun at a camera is just the same as pointing a gun at someone. Psychologically . . ..

[U184]

You did not address my question.

I fail to see how it applies, Psychologically or not. I have not seen the Teachers Face Book profile but unless the teacher uses it to converse with students or posts relevant educational materials it should be seen as separate from school, period.

The issue is not about the proper conduct on handling a firearm, it is about the freedom of speech and personal expression guaranteed to Americans.

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

Teachers are not meant to have a personal life?

No, their personal life just isn't supposed to be in the public sphere. If she wants to talk about having a personal life then, she shouldn't have posted her "personal" stuff on a "public" place.

Should teachers be allowed to be pornographers too? I mean, it's her personal life, right?

[U184]

yes and yes.

Sharing her private life Publicly is also her right.

Just because you teach kids you cant have a public profile on your own time and expect it to be not associated with your job?

Look at the examples I gave, they seem to be acceptable to many people. A person who teaches has a job as a Teacher> they are a person who happens to teach. Job here_____ person here_____. Simple equation.

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

A teacher is meant to be an example for her kids. How can she be an example when they can use her dirty little secrets against her? If a student hits another students and she says "force is not an acceptable way to deal with conflict," the student can say "oh, then what about that gun you have?"

Teachers should be hypocrites, because we don't want them infecting our students with immorality. They can't be effective hypocrites if the students realize their hypocrisy.

[Todd D.]

People have the right to have a personal life however public in any manner they see fit. They owe no code of conduct other then what they do or do not do at work.

By this logic, a teacher could date a student "as long as it was outside school grounds" and didn't effect her teaching. That's obviously wrong.

As Cheesecake said, teachers are role models for their students. If you present yourself in public acting in such a way that is inappropriate for children, regardless of where it takes place, then you can expect to suffer the consequences.

Look at the examples I gave, they seem to be acceptable to many people.

What, this example:
"Some Teacher teach by day and strip by night. [...] They are allowed to do their jobs regardless of the impropriety."
Not according to this school district

Or this one.

Sorry. You lose.

[Rancid]

If a student hits another students and she says "force is not an acceptable way to deal with conflict," the student can say "oh, then what about that gun you have?"

Force is acceptable for defense though.

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

Not at school and not ideally. We're talking about instilling into kids real world skills, like talking their way out of a fight instead of continuing it. It's better to argue with words than fists.

[Rancid]

It's better to argue with words than fists.

i agree, but we should teach kids how to deal with reality as well, while trying to create the ideal world. many times, words don't work, no matter how hard you try.

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

i agree, but we should teach kids how to deal with reality as well, while trying to create the ideal world. many times, words don't work, no matter how hard you try.

Yes. Administrators understand this. That's why they have expulsion for troublemakers and suspension for people acting in self defense. Schools should not be condoning fighting as self defense whatsoever, because they understand kids only hear what they want to hear. You say "use your fists as a last resort," they hear "use your fists."

[Rancid]

You say "use your fists as a last resort," they hear "use your fists."

Kids are more reasonable than you would think.