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Little Britain
Gone With The Wind
Cancellation of Cops (which to be honest should have been cancelled years ago due to "declining ratings", not now).

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/ ... -from-uktv

Then they came for Fawlty Towers....

Fucken nutcases run the BBC at the moment.
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Donna wrote:Do you have any examples?


Sure, compare polling on the choking of Eric Garner:

YouGov wrote:A grand jury recently decided not to charge the police officer who placed Garner in the chokehold with any crime. Do you approve or disapprove of the grand jury’s decision?

Approve strongly . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12%
Approve somewhat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15%
Disapprove somewhat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23%
Disapprove strongly . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .33%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16%


With the polling on the choking of George Floyd:

YouGov wrote:When told that Chauvin had been charged with third-degree murder on Friday — meaning the offender did not mean to kill, but that someone died "by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life" — and that if convicted Chauvin could be sentenced for up to 25 years in prison, most Democrats (95%) and Republicans (81%) say the charge is either appropriate or that it should be more serious.

Democrats (64%) are more than twice as likely as Republicans (29%), however, to say Chauvin should have been charged with a more serious crime. Three-quarters of black Americans (78%) say the charge is not sufficient compared to about two in five (41%) white Americans. But, just one in 25 Americans (4%) say Chauvin did not deserve to be charged with a crime at all. Most people (77%) say Chauvin is obviously guilty of a crime and, if anything, the authorities were too slow to arrest him.
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Donna wrote:@wat0n I was looking for examples where "attempts to force it to go at a pace most people don't want will not be looked upon kindly by them"


Ah, sure. It even has a generic name: Thermidorian Reaction, because of this although the same thing has taken other forms like this, this or, much more kindly, this or even this.

If you want to read more about it, you can read The Anatomy of Revolution, by Crane Brinton. It's a very old and interesting book on the matter.
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wat0n wrote:Ah, sure. It even has a generic name: Thermidorian Reaction, because of this although the same thing has taken other forms like this, this or, much more kindly, this or even this.

If you want to read more about it, you can read The Anatomy of Revolution, by Crane Brinton. It's a very old and interesting book on the matter.


So you don't actually have any evidence. Okay.
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I am against any programs being edited out or language changed, characters or anything at all that is about political correctness on TV. For me older television programs are like historical records that need to be preserved to see how the culture had changed with other areas. All in the Family in the USA was very controversial with its bigot character Archie Bunker. Imagine changing every line that bigot uttered? Lol. No show left. The show was the bigot and how people were in that era and in that neighborhood and mentality. It is art. You leave it the hell alone!

They need to examine why they have a need to edit out some program from 1975. Or some cop show?

What they need to do if they want to change the problems with racism? Is have long and fruitful examinations of their attitudes with other communities. Leave art alone. Leave music alone. Lyrics, poetry, and painting, and sculpture and literature and all of it alone. Let it stand.

If they want to get rid of stupid statues I am all for that. Hell, Denver Colorado had the airport named after a Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan for a very long time. No one protested. He still has all kinds of shit named after the hood wearing man who would terrorize Black Coloradans. Yet people got to go and rewrite some comedy script? I don't get it.
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Donna wrote:Do you have any evidence that public opinion toward racial justice is negatively changing as a result of the George Floyd protests?


That depends on how you define "racial justice". Trump supporters will have radically different views from BLM supporters over how that looks like, as I can assume you understand.

But more importantly, the reaction doesn't happen just due to the content of whatever the revolutionaries want, but more importantly, it happens due to the means they use to achieve their ends: The reaction begins because the revolutionaries go too far in their attempts to impose the order they want, and the rest react. And yes, there is evidence that there might be a reaction:

YouGov wrote:But Americans are less certain about how to classify the protests that originated in Minneapolis after Floyd's death and have spread across the world. Many protesters have marched peacefully in the streets, while others have engaged in looting or arson. The Minnesota Star Tribune reported that at least 255 businesses across the cities were vandalized as of Sunday morning.

Americans describe the protests in Minneapolis as "mostly violent riots" (51%) over "mostly peaceful protests" (10%). About two in five Democrats (42%) describe the protests as an equal mixture of peaceful and violent, while almost three-quarters of Republicans say the protests are mostly violent riots. White Americans (57%) are much more likely than Black Americans (32%) to believe that the Minnesota protests are defined by violence.


Another problem is that one of the proposals that's becoming quite prominent doesn't seem to have too much support:

YouGov wrote:Despite calls by activists and protesters to defund police departments, most Americans do not support reducing law enforcement budgets. Close to two-thirds (65%) oppose cutting police force funding. Just 16 percent of Democrats and 15 percent of Republicans support that idea.


The reforms that seem to have most support are quite different in nature:

YouGov wrote:There is strong bipartisan support for training police officers how to de-escalate conflicts and avoid using force (94% support among Democrats; 83% support among Republicans). A similar number of Democrats (91%) and Republicans (82%) support outfitting all police officers with body cameras. The body cameras, which are worn on an officer’s uniform, can provide footage of their interactions with citizens. A 2015 Reuters report found that despite heightened interest in body cameras after police misconduct reports, they are often unaffordable for many police departments.

Four in five (80%) Americans favor implementing an early warning system to identify problematic officers. This is supported by strong majorities of Democrats (89%) and Republicans (72%), as well as white (81%) and black (88%) Americans.


YouGov wrote:On Thursday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy expressed support for a federal ban on police choke holds — a key passage of the police reform proposal drafted by Democrats to overhaul police procedures in America.

A federal ban on choke holds would prohibit police officers from restraining someone by restricting their breathing. The Economist/YouGov Poll indicates that such a ban would receive bipartisan support from the public. Three-quarters (75%) of registered voters favor it, including majorities of Democrats (87%), Independents (69%), and Republicans (63%).

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