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#15103397
colliric wrote:https://youtu.be/-oJW6pur3UQ

Jewish Hitler.

MeToo is his biggest fanboy.


There is already one simpleton on this forum, - skinster. Do we have another one,- you?

What are you saying? Do you even know the nature of National Socialism under Hitler? Do you know the history and social development of Jews vis-a-vis Arabs in the Middle East?

Go study the subject and learn instead of blubbering the nonsense.

Kahane is dead. His party never amounted to anything in Israel. His views were never supported by the majority of electorate. Unlike Hitler with near 100% success rate in Germany , Kahane 's support was less then 1% in Israel in general reaching maybe 3% in peak years.

Any democratic country has its Kahanes! What you are saying is that those Kahanes run the show because you happen to find them and parade them for all to see.

Well,- here is an example for you,- KKK are legal in the States, they hold ralleys with police protection, David Duke gives speaches. Therefore US of A is Nazi Germany incarnate, right? This is your logic, think and weep!

What you are saying is less than intelligent, you site the TV show as your evidence. You will not win any debates with your tactics and you jump to conclusions based on ignorance of the subject matter. Have you been to a college? Didn't they teach how to structure an argument?
#15103399
Hindsite wrote:
It is very unusual for a Cop in the USA to place his knee on anyone's neck. That sort of thing would not have happened to "Big George" either if he had cooperated and gotten into the police squad car as instructed. Who knows what that Arab did, but at least the IDF were easy on him and no harm was done to him. He is alive to tell his distorted story to the world.



Actually, it's very *usual* -- the killings, at the hands of cops, happen at the rate of 1,000+ per year in the U.S., not to mention all of the maiming / brutality, and simple knees-on-necks *without* fatalities.

According to you noncompliance is worthy of summary execution. I can't agree.

Obviously *you* don't know what the guy did, either, but you concoct some bullshit judgment on the parties involved, anyway, despite the unknowns.
#15103472
skinster wrote:What are those (Israeli) demands?


Google is your friend , skinster! Use it...

Briefly though,- no refugee return, Jerusalem, Jordan Valley and most of Area C is in Israel's hands, Palestinian educational reform, no belligerents, no future territorial demands, demilitarization, etc.

In return...happy and prosperous life!
#15103474
Metoo wrote:
Google is your friend , skinster! Use it...

Briefly though,- no refugee return, Jerusalem, Jordan Valley and most of Area C is in Israel's hands, Palestinian educational reform, no belligerents, no future territorial demands, demilitarization, etc.

In return...happy and prosperous life!



Translation: Just do what we say, and FYVM.
#15103530
ckaihatsu wrote:The sentiment of genocide -- with a smile!

(How awesome is the 21st century already.)


Naturally, and with a big smile. This is what you should expect when the party you advocate for loses. Yes, there is no way back for for those you like so much. They can bark, but they can't bite. They tried and they failed.

As for you, - all that is left for you is to indulge in groundless accusations. I am fine with your genocide comment. It is, after all, is a figment of your imagination. So, I forgive you.
#15103597
Metoo wrote:
Naturally, and with a big smile. This is what you should expect when the party you advocate for loses. Yes, there is no way back for for those you like so much. They can bark, but they can't bite. They tried and they failed.



Which party do you think I advocated for?


Metoo wrote:
As for you, - all that is left for you is to indulge in groundless accusations. I am fine with your genocide comment. It is, after all, is a figment of your imagination. So, I forgive you.



How do you feel about the recent annexation of parts of the West Bank?
#15103855
ckaihatsu wrote:Obviously *you* don't know what the guy did, either, but you concoct some bullshit judgment on the parties involved, anyway, despite the unknowns.

My judgment was just that the IDF let the guy live regardless of what he did to provoke the IDF action against him. That is much better than what happened to "Big" George Floyd in the USA.

ckaihatsu wrote:Which party do you think I advocated for?

The losing party.

ckaihatsu wrote:How do you feel about the recent annexation of parts of the West Bank?

It is about time.
#15103997
Hindsite wrote:
My judgment was just that the IDF let the guy live regardless of what he did to provoke the IDF action against him. That is much better than what happened to "Big" George Floyd in the USA.



So do you think that this should be the *regular* way for cops to handle noncompliance?


Hindsite wrote:
The losing party.



Funny, but you'd be incorrect since I don't advocate for *any* (bourgeois-minded) party politics.

Trick question.


Hindsite wrote:
It is about time.



Reminds me of the Westward Expansion here in the U.S. that just *tore* through treaties with the Native Americans.
#15104106
ckaihatsu wrote:Which party do you think I advocated for?


Concidering you rather clear anti israeli stand, you are batting for the other team!

ckaihatsu wrote:How do you feel about the recent annexation of parts of the West Bank?


This is not an annexation. Only those who fundamentally oppose Israeli claims to the Land would call it an annexation. It is not any more annexation as Crimea being reclaimed by Russian Federation.
This land, the land in question, is not a territory of a sovereign state, it is a stateless land. It is also a disputed land. Israel has a claim to it and been in pursuit of settling that claim with the opposing party for decades, all to no avail.

The opposing party has no interest, or should I say had no interest until 2 days ago, to seriously consider all Israeli proposals to settle the dispute. So israel is now moving to unilaterally define its boundaries as Israel sees fit. I am giving you a synapsys of the problem in question.

So, - with above in mind, yes, I support the extension of Israeli law to Jordan Valley and territorial elements of Area C. I also think that this move will set the necessary precedent for finally fixing up the injustice of the initial partition of British Palestine back in 1947. I hope there will be further moves in that direction as yeas unfold.
#15104110
Metoo wrote:
Concidering you rather clear anti israeli stand, you are batting for the other team!



I *am* pro-Palestinian, yes, if that's what you mean.


Metoo wrote:
This is not an annexation. Only those who fundamentally oppose Israeli claims to the Land would call it an annexation. It is not any more annexation as Crimea being reclaimed by Russian Federation.
This land, the land in question, is not a territory of a sovereign state, it is a stateless land. It is also a disputed land. Israel has a claim to it and been in pursuit of settling that claim with the opposing party for decades, all to no avail.

The opposing party has no interest, or should I say had no interest until 2 days ago, to seriously consider all Israeli proposals to settle the dispute. So israel is now moving to unilaterally define its boundaries as Israel sees fit. I am giving you a synapsys of the problem in question.



If it's a disputed land then why should its control be decided in favor of *Israel*, in particular?


Metoo wrote:
So, - with above in mind, yes, I support the extension of Israeli law to Jordan Valley and territorial elements of Area C. I also think that this move will set the necessary precedent for finally fixing up the injustice of the initial partition of British Palestine back in 1947. I hope there will be further moves in that direction as yeas unfold.



How would you address *Palestine's* claims to the land? (How should the Palestinian *people* be treated?)
#15104259
Hindsite wrote:
My judgment was just that the IDF let the guy live regardless of what he did to provoke the IDF action against him. That is much better than what happened to "Big" George Floyd in the USA.



ckaihatsu wrote:
So do you think that this should be the *regular* way for cops to handle noncompliance?



Hindsite wrote:
Maybe, at least until someone can come up with a more effective way.



Okay, so at least you're not for a 'killer-cop' policy.

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