[wat0n]

False.

Is that why non-Jews can vote and be voted into office, along with forming their own political parties? Or why they can enjoy freedom of expression of all sorts of opinions and their own culture? Or why they are free to start businesses and their property rights are respected just as those of Jews are?

Seething doesn't cut it, even if you wish to repeat the nonsense ad nauseam.

[JohnRawls]

False.

What do you mean false? Simply saying "false" without showing the norms in the constitution for it and so on is just not an acceptable answer here.

Religion effects laws in a sense that it guides morality to a certain extent and morals and traditions are basis for most laws and this happens in every country, even liberal democratic ones. The difference is that for liberal democratic states texts interpretations of religious texts are not the basis for legal practices and law while for Iran, SA and so on it is.

[starman2003]

Majority of really long term alliances are values based and interest based alliances crumble relatively fast in historical scope if they are not also values based.

Na, due to interests, the US long remained on good terms with South Africa, KSA etc despite the big gap in ideologies.
Much depends on the degree to which liberal democracy can afford the luxury of values based alliances. Knowing full well their interests lay with the arabs--to an even greater degree than ours--France and Japan didn't support Israel to anywhere near the same degree as the US.

[pugsville]

What do you mean false? Simply saying "false" without showing the norms in the constitution for it and so on is just not an acceptable answer here.

Religion effects laws in a sense that it guides morality to a certain extent and morals and traditions are basis for most laws and this happens in every country, even liberal democratic ones. The difference is that for liberal democratic states texts interpretations of religious texts are not the basis for legal practices and law while for Iran, SA and so on it is.

Israel marriage laws are medieval and cannot be described as liberal. Religious extremists are pandered to by the Government allowed to openly break the law as long as they are only stealing form those at the bottom of the ethnic ranking. Religious students of one religion are privileged.

Israel does not have a constitutions because the racism the state was founded cannot be stated. That state was founded on the dispossession and expulsion of the population based on ethnicity.

The State is one of populations largely living apart where one ethnicity group is massive privileged and controls everything in society with a monopoly of political power. All the key institution are controlled by one ethnic group with others largely excluded.

Expenditure on education, cultural , economic support is funneled largely to the dominant ethnic group

Religious and ethnic identity is the primary status of the population of Israel. Political rhetoric is constant and actively cast in those terms.

It is not open liberal society where people differing ethnic and religious identity treated even vaguely equally. Non Jews are barely tolerate.

[pugsville]

Is that why non-Jews can vote and be voted into office, along with forming their own political parties? Or why they can enjoy freedom of expression of all sorts of opinions and their own culture? Or why they are free to start businesses and their property rights are respected just as those of Jews are?

Seething doesn't cut it, even if you wish to repeat the nonsense ad nauseam.

They can be voted for but they are excluded from Government, just what exactly does the vote get them? Look at all the coalitions of all the various parties. Over the past 50 years Israeli Arabs repreent t what percentage of the vote? and they have what percentage of representation Government? And Why is that?

The state supports Jewish Businesses but Not Arab ones. How much housing is built for the Arab population compared to the Jewish one?

If the Jewish person builds an illegal building what is the state response compared to an Arab citizen builds an illegal building.

One is protected, funded and compensated by the state the other is not. The response by the state is entirely governed by ethnic group of the transgressor,

Israel was built on the abrogation of non jewish property rights. Present Absentee laws are still applied. But only to one segment of the population.

Jewish owners can do do seek the return of property (and get) that was theirs before 1948, Arab Israelis cannot. The Law is not applied in equal fashion. It was never written to be , nor could the institutions even imagine that the law would be applied equally. Jewish people not at home in 1948 did not have their land seized.

Political rights, Property Rights, Civil Rights in Israel is function of religion and =ethnicity. It always has been. The Institutions were built that way from the ground up and little has changed.

[wat0n]

They can be voted for but they are excluded from Government, just what exactly does the vote get them? Look at all the coalitions of all the various parties. Over the past 50 years Israeli Arabs repreent t what percentage of the vote? and they have what percentage of representation Government? And Why is that?

Arab parties themselves prefer not to join coalitions, the current government is supported by some Arab parties from outside the coalition (all to get rid of Bibi). Should Arab political parties be forced to join governments or what?

The state supports Jewish Businesses but Not Arab ones.

Not really

How much housing is built for the Arab population compared to the Jewish one?

If the Jewish person builds an illegal building what is the state response compared to an Arab citizen builds an illegal building.

One is protected, funded and compensated by the state the other is not. The response by the state is entirely governed by ethnic group of the transgressor,

Even in the settlements, the government routinely demolishes illegal outposts (illegal in the sense that they are built without government permits).

Israel was built on the abrogation of non jewish property rights. Present Absentee laws are still applied. But only to one segment of the population.

Jewish owners can do do seek the return of property (and get) that was theirs before 1948, Arab Israelis cannot. The Law is not applied in equal fashion. It was never written to be , nor could the institutions even imagine that the law would be applied equally. Jewish people not at home in 1948 did not have their land seized.

Also not true, Arab Israelis were compensated by a 1973 law that was based on UN recommendations for compensating written in the 1960s.

Palestinians would probably be eligible for that type of compensatory scheme under a peace treaty, but for now it's limited to Israeli Arabs.

Political rights, Property Rights, Civil Rights in Israel is function of religion and =ethnicity. It always has been. The Institutions were built that way from the ground up and little has changed.

Blah blah blah.