late wrote:1) As is China. You don't want to answer the question because it would rip the guts out of your comedy routine.
China is a totalitarian country, which you seem to like quite a lot.
late wrote:2) More fiction...
Your argument is just dumb. There is no virus that has the wherewithal to check whether someone has health insurance or not and then make a decision to infect the person with no coverage. Your assertion is way outside of the scientific method.
late wrote:"The degree of financial coverage for health care is not an issue with regard to the initial outbreak of infectious diseases. But it can accelerate the spread to the extent that the initial people affected delay getting tested and getting their symptoms diagnosed because they lack insurance coverage or have no regular source of care. This is the added complication and challenge we have in the U.S."
A non-issue. The US government has agreed to pay for coronavirus treatment for the uninsured even at private hospitals. Additionally, FEMA has set up all sorts of temporary hospitals to treat the sick free of charge.
late wrote:3) I guess somebody has no idea what they're talking about.
That's you looking in the mirror.
late wrote:4) It would take time for manufacturers to replace the things they get from China. While they wait, the rest of the world would eat our lunch.
It would. It took decades to create this problem, and it may take decades to undo it.
late wrote:5) That is a quota, not a ban. So are we in full retreat, or are you just flailing blindly. Pick one.
You take everything I say and generalize it. So there is no "we" in this statement. I talk about tariffs against China, and you turn that into general tariffs like Smoot-Hawley. It's rather pointless converse with you on the merits other than to correct your mindless distortions.
late wrote:You didn't find anyone that agrees with you because there isn't anyone of any importance that would.
Just turn on the business news and you will find more and more people very angry at the Chinese Communist Party and what they did to the global economy.
late wrote:IOW, you were lying, and you knew you were lying, all those times you said Commie...
The commies call themselves commies. That's why its the Chinese Communist Party, or Communist Party of China if you prefer.
SolarCross wrote:The CPC (the clue is in the name) are still communists
He's no Sherlock Holmes...
late wrote:At the same time, we need to find a way to allow them to expand their hegemony without letting them become the regional bully.
We do not need to do any such thing at all.
late wrote:But that's not going to happen for a while thanks to the virus.
Viruses do not force communist bureaucrats to lie to the World Health Organization.
SolarCross wrote:They still call themselves communist though and they do not care about your opinion. You called me a liar for calling the Communist Party of China commies.... Care to take that back now?
My guess is that he won't.
SolarCross wrote:Also we absolutely do not need them to increase their hegemony! THAT IS INSANE! If anything we should want them to give up Tibet, free Hong Kong and let Taiwan be. East asia has dozens of much better behaved guardians of the east: south korea, taiwan, singapore, japan... If we want a regional hegemon it should be a coalition of them not filthy CPC.
Exactly. Communism needs to finally be placed on the ash heap of history along with the reputations of the people who proposed free trade with China.
SolarCross wrote:Whose side are you on, seriously?! You are looking more and more like a literal bought and paid for shill of the CPC like that WHO guy Dr Aylward. Come clean now.
He seems to have quite an affinity for advancing the interests of the Chinese Communist Party.
Tainari88 wrote:Relampaguito you like Trump's policies and his administration skills? Yes or no?
I would prefer Trump to Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden any day of the week. Could we do better? Sure. However, better candidates aren't in the race.
Tainari88 wrote:You like his chaotic bullshit? Yes or no?
I'm fine with it for the same reason that James Mattis liked his "chaos" call sign.
Tainari88 wrote:Allowing these greedy elites to continue on in their merry way without a sense of obligation to the unemployed and the ones falling behind due to shuttered small businesses, restaurants, and service industries is a recipe for disaster.
The elites are the ones ordering the businesses shut. You need to make a clearer distinction between what is happening and what you would like to happen.
Tainari88 wrote:Capitalism has forced internationalism. So your America first stuff is not going to cope well with that system that controls the world.
A number of lying thugs pushed free trade with a communist country that has now collapsed the travel and hospitality industries and is now on the verge of collapsing the banking industry if the lockdown continues and tenants refuse to pay rent and homeowners elect to default on mortgages. You can pretend to be naive about the financial implications of a shutdown, but that will not make the economic suffering of the poor become even worse.
Tainari88 wrote:The USA did not isolate itself from the PRC. It punishes Cuba pettily and Venezuela and other nations who are not the PRC. Sellout mentality is the same all over the world.
I don't disagree. That's why I left the Republican party. They had as much a hand in trade with China as Bill Clinton did.
Tainari88 wrote:It is killing people right now because they lose jobs, they lose health insurance and your pig liar president tool isn't allowing people to even buy Obamacare on the open market.
What policy action has Trump taken to prevent people from purchasing insurance?
Tainari88 wrote:If they don't get socialized free care for this Corona pandemic?
They do get free care for coronavirus.
Tainari88 wrote:Take a position BJ. because socialized medicine is coming. And it is coming to STAY.
After watching what is happening in Europe with all their nationalized health services, I don't think most Americans are too impressed.
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