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jimjam wrote:I'm not sure what this has to do with my observation that America has morphed into a heavily armed nation awash with hatred, fear, obesity and stupidity. It wasn't always thus. I am old enough to recall a time when fearful people were not cloistering themselves behind locked doors fondling their guns afraid to walk the streets after dark. Obesity and stupidity? I am boggled by a simple trip to the supermarket where it seems that more than half the shoppers are sporting big to enormous bellies and dumb looks.( A troubling new report released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that almost 40 percent of American adults and nearly 20 percent of adolescents are obese — the highest rates ever recorded for the U.S.)


I'm just pointing out that the hysteria over guns and violence in the media seems to be heavily slanted towards coverage of white people; it's kind of the point of this thread.

An interesting take on the recent school shooting mentioned in this from a black perspective mentioned by Crantag.

Here, folks, is today's school shooting.

Huffman High School shooting: Courtlin Arrington killed; 17-year-old boy injured, questioned

Apparently a boy was possibly showing off a gun, and shot and killed a girl, possibly by accident, before possibly accidentally shooting himself, possibly while putting the gun away.

This happened in Birmingham, Alabama.

The article says the boy was questioned at police headquarters; it doesn't say that he was 'arrested' or anything.

So, there you have it, today's school shooting; just in case anyone was still paying attention.


This YouTubers thinks that the media is going to unfairly portray this shooting as if school shootings are more prevalent in the black community. He is delusional and thinks that the media is still operating in the way it did in the early 90's. This shooting was in and out of the media in two days, and it takes random YouTubers to point out that it was a black on black crime.

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Suntzu wrote:Shooter appears to be a member of the Dindu tribe.

The USA has crappy social programs and racially segregated misery, and you blame black youth for being neglected and badly raised?

It's a huge shame on the USA that it hasn't taken care of huge swaths of its own population because the state is so married to 19th Century race theory. Another gigantic market failure, along with school shootings (related), traffic deaths, and climate change.

The market has failed and we're all gonna die. Let's make fun of less advantaged "races" by calling them Dindus.

Mocking other people is a lot easier than adressing the total failure of your own system. It's as easy as eating a gigantic bag of chips in front of the TV.
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4cal wrote:The reason I ask is that Washington spoke of the “baneful effects” of political parties in his farewell address. Though it isn’t in the Constitution, certainly the man himself holds great respect and was one of the central figures at the convention… That doesn’t seem to stop these jugheads from willfully embracing their Parties.

Well, it's amazing that you realize the DNC is not part of the government. People keep saying that the Russians attacked the United States. The DNC is not the United States. It's just a corporation, like McDonalds.

jimjam wrote:I'm not sure what this has to do with my observation that America has morphed into a heavily armed nation awash with hatred, fear, obesity and stupidity.

Well, I guess obesity is novel, unless you think slavery was brilliant, slave owners were full of love and slaves had nothing to fear.

Differences in Prevalence of Obesity Among Black, White, and Hispanic Adults --- United States, 2006--2008
Overall, for the 3-year period, 25.6% of non-Hispanic blacks, non-Hispanic whites, and Hispanics were obese. Non-Hispanic blacks (35.7%) had 51% greater prevalence of obesity, and Hispanics (28.7%) had 21% greater prevalence, when compared with non-Hispanic whites (23.7%).

This is what the Obama administration had to say. Tell us more, jimjam.

maz wrote:This YouTubers thinks that the media is going to unfairly portray this shooting as if school shootings are more prevalent in the black community. He is delusional and thinks that the media is still operating in the way it did in the early 90's. This shooting was in and out of the media in two days, and it takes random YouTubers to point out that it was a black on black crime.

Well, that is the hysterical underlying message in all the freaking out over the Florida shooting. It's as if they are screaming, "White lives matter!" Yet, when it happens in a minority school, we get crickets. The black kid kills another black person, and doesn't even get arrested. He must have claimed to be an illegal alien or something.

I saw this one, and I was rolling with laughter: Trump: "Maxine Waters A Very Low I.Q. Individual"

The media must know they are being trolled, because they usually have an uproar over such things. However, Maxine Waters is probably the dumbest member of Congress. I'm surprised Drlee, with his stratospheric IQ, hasn't had something to say about that.
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QatzelOk wrote:The USA has crappy social programs and racially segregated misery, and you blame black youth for being neglected and badly raised?

It's a huge shame on the USA that it hasn't taken care of huge swaths of its own population because the state is so married to 19th Century race theory. Another gigantic market failure, along with school shootings (related), traffic deaths, and climate change.

The market has failed and we're all gonna die. Let's make fun of less advantaged "races" by calling them Dindus.

Mocking other people is a lot easier than adressing the total failure of your own system. It's as easy as eating a gigantic bag of chips in front of the TV.


Yep, it is our fault! Wait, the Koreans, Vietnamese even the African immigrants don't seem to have these problems. :roll:
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Suntzu wrote:Yep, it is our fault! Wait, the Koreans, Vietnamese even the African immigrants don't seem to have these problems. :roll:

Well, in Korea and Vietnam, brave American soldiers (thank you for your servicio culture) killed more than 10% of their populations (including lots of children) using chemical weapons that are still giving their children birth defects to this day.

Perhaps you need to drop napalm and agent orange on Florida and Calfornia to kill "all the bad children" who might shoot up their own schools one day?

The most important thing is to find a "market solution" to all problems, including market failure.

Decky wrote:Crisps Qatz not chips. Only yanks call them chips.

Canadians speak a very American English. We'll have our own school shootings in a decade or two.
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QatzelOk wrote:The USA has crappy social programs and racially segregated misery, and you blame black youth for being neglected and badly raised?

That is because the Democrats want to continue to keep as many Blacks dependent on their crappy social programs that they use to get votes from 90% of the Blacks who have fallen for their propaganda for decades.

blackjack21 wrote:Well, it's amazing that you realize the DNC is not part of the government. People keep saying that the Russians attacked the United States. The DNC is not the United States. It's just a corporation, like McDonalds.

Another thing is that the DNC computer wasn't actually hacked by the Russians. Someone used a thumb drive to copy the information and apparently turn it over to WikiLeaks. Mueller didn't even indict those Russians for hacking, but for using social media to influence the election.
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blackjack21 wrote:Well, it's amazing that you realize the DNC is not part of the government. People keep saying that the Russians attacked the United States. The DNC is not the United States. It's just a corporation, like McDonalds.


No, whats amazing is that you think if you're not a member of one party, you must be a member of another party. Your binary view is sad.

PS: You never told us your stock symbol that you're so proud of. Please tell us so we can continue to chart your success under the pervert.
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Hindsite wrote:Another thing is that the DNC computer wasn't actually hacked by the Russians. Someone used a thumb drive to copy the information and apparently turn it over to WikiLeaks. Mueller didn't even indict those Russians for hacking, but for using social media to influence the election.

Well, that's another reason the whole investigation is a sham. Mueller isn't investigating their server either, and that is basically one of the lode stones of this Russia collusion premise. Yet, Mueller has an interest in the DNC server being hacked that has all the characteristics of two magnets with the same poles repelling each other. A prosecutor and a crime scene should be attracted to each other in the most compelling manner; yet, the public propaganda does not meet with the actions of the "investigation" if that's what it is called.

4cal wrote:No, whats amazing is that you think if you're not a member of one party, you must be a member of another party. Your binary view is sad.

Heh. I'm an independent. I haven't belonged to or donated to a political party since 2006. I did, however, buy a few of my friends a bottle of Trump sparkling wine each for their 50th birthdays this year. It's just a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor, since one of them is an avid Democrat.

4cal wrote:PS: You never told us your stock symbol that you're so proud of. Please tell us so we can continue to chart your success under the pervert.

Corporate ethics training tells me I shouldn't disclose it to you. Donald Trump never showed you his tax returns either. If my stock tanks, I'll be howling like a little bitch.
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blackjack21 wrote:Well, that's another reason the whole investigation is a sham. Mueller isn't investigating their server either, and that is basically one of the lode stones of this Russia collusion premise. Yet, Mueller has an interest in the DNC server being hacked that has all the characteristics of two magnets with the same poles repelling each other. A prosecutor and a crime scene should be attracted to each other in the most compelling manner; yet, the public propaganda does not meet with the actions of the "investigation" if that's what it is called.


Heh. I'm an independent. I haven't belonged to or donated to a political party since 2006. I did, however, buy a few of my friends a bottle of Trump sparkling wine each for their 50th birthdays this year. It's just a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor, since one of them is an avid Democrat.


Corporate ethics training tells me I shouldn't disclose it to you. Donald Trump never showed you his tax returns either. If my stock tanks, I'll be howling like a little bitch.


Ethics training? Yeah, okay. :lol: :lol: :lol: Does your degree from Trump U hang proudly on your wall?

Put another way, you have no holdings (or minimal ones at that) and don't want to be in the position to explain what happened if the stock heads south. Not that you would know to start with.
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4cal wrote:Ethics training? Yeah, okay. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Legally, I'm an insider. I generally don't tell you exactly what I work on or exactly where I work (but I give you a general idea of what I do). As part of a publicly-traded corporation, we go through mandatory annual training on ethics, insider trading, sexual harassment (I work at home, so it's pointless for all practical purposes) and foreign corrupt practices.

4cal wrote:Does your degree from Trump U hang proudly on your wall?

I've never been through his courses. I have a degree in general business with a 4.0 GPA and summa cum laude honors. I don't have that on my wall either. I've never really seen the point in that. My grand parents hung my mother's degrees on their walls, because she was the first in her family to go to college and I think it was a matter of pride for them. My father hung his in his office, because he was a medical doctor and that seems to be standard practice among professionals. I can dig mine out of a file drawer if someone actually wants to see it. I just view it as an access token, nothing more.

4cal wrote:Put another way, you have no holdings (or minimal ones at that) and don't want to be in the position to explain what happened if the stock heads south.

It's somewhat unfortunately the other way around. I have far more value in company stock than I do in my 401k. As an insider, I have limited trading windows. I need to hold the stock longer term to get preferential capital gains treatment when options exercise--some of the option exercises are mandatory. However, if I do something like hedge the stock, I have to ensure that puts I buy or calls I might write aren't expiring or getting exercised during a restricted trading window, or the SEC will be up my arse. That's not something I would look forward to. Thankfully, my employer provides me with MetLaw coverage if I needed criminal defense or other legal services. However, rather than take your bait, I'll let investor relations handle communications with the public and refrain from disclosing any material non-public information. That's just how we roll.

4cal wrote:Not that you would know to start with.

Our stock is a growth or momentum stock. So adverse market moves for growth stocks generally involve not meeting quarterly earnings expectations, lower guidance for future growth, or secular downtrends in the industry as a whole. Naturally, there are other factors as well.

This morning, the stock was down over a dollar. Right now, it is up over $.25 cents.
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Whatever you say sonny….

“Legally, I’m an insider….”

If you were an “insider” or even had any inkling of the law, you’d know that you could report the ticker symbol and the pricing history of a publicly traded stock. If what you said is true, there would be no information out there since a company couldn’t talk about it’s stock price.

Its been fun watching you flail around. Encore! :lol:
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I understand not wanting to give away the company he works for on a public forum, but it is rather moot to even discuss a given stock without divulging what the stock is.

It seems like he initially posted while the stock was in a short-term condition of being inflated, and I sort of vaguely get the impression it has dipped downward in the intervening time.

That's sort of what stocks do.

The financial architects pursue multiple objectives simultaneously through their schemes and scams. They hedge all over and in myriad ways. In line with their calculated approach has been encouraging large numbers of workers to have their savings attached to the financial markets, through such things as 401(k)s, and various other means (though 401(k) is perhaps the most significant, from a volume standpoint). This entails positive political implications for the financial fraudsters, among other things; and so this constitutes an aspect of their stratagem. The holdings of individual workers are mere crumbs, and it is a risky business to be involved in, given that retirement savings via stock market 'investment' involves so-called 'longevity risk'. By investing retirement savings in the market, one is by definition seeking to time the market. Attempting to time the market is an aphorism in most normal situations. But financialized American capitalism is all about shifting risk to workers, so it is sort of the norm in such an instance. In fact, the retirement savings fraud is one of the clearer examples to be found.
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Crantag wrote:I understand not wanting to give away the company he works for on a public forum, but it is rather moot to even discuss a given stock without divulging what the stock is.


Oh, definitely. I don’t and will not divulge where I work. However, where he works was not important to the discussion until he tried to use it as an excuse.

Like if someone says the following….
Him
“I made $10,000 in the market since Trump was inaugurated; the stock I own is at it’s 52 WH”

Me
“Oh yeah? What is the ticker symbol. By telling us, we can rejoice in your continued success!!”

you can divulge what stock you own without divulging your employer.

Him
“The ticker symbol is XXX”

I would have no idea he worked for XXX since, obviously, you can own XXX without working for XXX.

Put that together with the total lack of morals, absence of character, syntax…I doubt he’s an insider anywhere outside of the local watering hole.
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Stock market talk. Nice to see.

The best thing to do, now that our thoughts and prayers have been forwarded to these new victims, is to ignore school massacres and really concentrate on screwing porn stars like Stormy Daniels, and thinking about how to make a lot of money on the stock market.

School massacres are like the commas in a 5000-word essay on making money and screwing beautiful women (while driving a Ferrari in Monte Carlo).
#14896180
Maybe some people just like to talk about economics?

Conversations turn different which ways, and this is a troll thread to begin with.

I don't have a single penny in the stock market, and the topic of my comment was about how Haut Finance uses the financial markets to transfer their risk onto the working class.

So, maybe you oughta save your outrage for something a little less benign than spouting off whenever people discuss economics.

But it is true that economists are morally bankrupt. No change will come to this by way of the facepalms of those who don't actually understand economics though.
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Zagadka wrote:You'd think that someone would have prevented him from buying an assault rifle, then.

You don't get it.

America doesn't lock enough of its citizens behind bars. That was Igor Antunov's big, juicy point.

Only when half of America's citizens are institutionalized will Americans be truly free. :lol:

Crantag wrote:No change will come to this by way of the facepalms of those who don't actually understand economics though.

The most important thing to understand is that our current economic system is based on scams, and on mafia violence.

The rest is shell games and PR, and pursuing too much Economic "education" can often eradicate parts of the mind that need to be dedicated to broader knowledge of the real world.

Focussing too much on our modern economic indicators has lead us to school shootings. The lack of a significant economic downside to these massacres has allowed them to continue unabated by any kind of "governance" on the part of the various American governments.

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