B0ycey wrote:The only thing that would take away any life is if Macedonia declared war on Greece in order to steal land that does indeed hold geostrategic ports in warm seas. But that is never going to happen. It is also never going to be accepted internationally either if there was a propaganda war to legitimise such claim to Greek land.
So I will repeat again. What is it people think is going to happen if Greece did indeed accept the national name Macedonia? After all, a nation decides their nations title. A neighbour doesn't do it for them. And that is how it should be. And if Greece is so touchy about a neighbouring territory sharing the same title, then why don't they just change the name of their own territory and be done with it rather than be part of a diplomatic row that is the grand scheme of things 'fuck all but a dick measuring contest'.
Mate, it is curious that a person can post so much condensed nonsense.
First of all, Greek objections to the name of FYROM are plenty:
a) Potential irredentism as already emanated by a failed invasion into Macedonia(Greece), just because something failed or it is set up to fail in the future does not mean that the raison d'etre should be permitted to exist. That is not logical in anyway.
b) Commercial confusion of Macedonian products.
c) Historical confusion of Macedonia, the ancient Greek kingdom and language with a Bulgarian polity and language unrelated to Macedonia.
d) Contemporary confusion of Macedonia and Macedonians as the one that has already taken place in this thread with Rugoz claiming that Macedonia is not even a region of Greece and that Macedonians should not call themselves as such even though they have been doing so for far longer than the other Bulgarians turned Macedonians.
Given that Greek Macedonia exists as an administrative and geographic unit long before FYROM was created, why would Greece be the one to change her name to accommodate whoever attempts to steal its territory and cultural heritage? What you are suggesting is that the home-owner should accommodate the thief because......? Feelings? Why?
Greece and FYROM have come to a compromising solution but you still moan because...? Feelings?
Atlantis wrote:I seem to remember that territorial expansionism and irridentism was more a thing with the promoters of Greater Serbia than with the FYR Macedonians. If anything, the FYR Macedonians have more to fear from the Greeks and the Serbs than the other way around.
After the KLA terrorist Albanians with German weapons were finished dismantling Serbia in Kossovo, they rose up in FYROM in 2001
, Greece sent weapons to FYROM to prevent a Greater Albania from taking place. Skopjan Slavs are composed of Serbians and Bulgarians, 2 peoples that Greeks have a special relationship with, Greeks are the top investors in the country and the top tourists too, if their nationalist faux Macedonist wing came down to reality like they are trying to and we finalise this agreement, we will be best of friends and much better friends than any of you people have been to the peoples in the Balkans. I seem to remember that Serbia trying to preserve its own internationally recognised provinces of Serbia proper was termed unacceptable "Greater Serbia" among your circles.
But please tell us how you disagree with all of NATO's illegal invasions, in Iraq, Libya, Syria but not with the one in Yugoslavia that your German government was cheerleading from start to finish and the only one that had no excuse either.
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