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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Monday insisted that freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar immediately apologize for tweets saying that members of Congress are being paid by a powerful interest group to support Israel.

"Congresswoman Omar's use of anti-Semitic tropes and prejudicial accusations about Israel's supporters is deeply offensive," Pelosi said in a statement issued by her office and signed by other Democratic leaders after a bipartisan backlash against the Minnesota Democrat. "We condemn these remarks and we call upon Congresswoman Omar to immediately apologize for these hurtful comments."

The statement came after Omar tweeted over the weekend that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee is paying members of Congress to support Israel. Omar is one of two of the first Muslim women to serve in Congress.

"In our conversation today, Congresswoman Omar and I agreed that we must use this moment to move forward as we reject anti-Semitism in all forms," Pelosi said in a tweet that included the statement.

The leaders' statement came in the hours after a pair of powerful House chairman rebuked Omar for the remarks. Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot Engel said he would not tolerate them and found it "shocking to hear a Member of Congress invoke the anti-Semitic trope of 'Jewish money.'" He said he will emphasize to members of the panel of both parties that the American-Israeli relationship is important.

Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler named Omar in his statement and said she had failed a test of leadership.

AIPAC responded Sunday night: "We are proud that we are engaged in the democratic process to strengthen the US-Israel relationship. Our bipartisan efforts are reflective of American values and interests. We will not be deterred in any way by ill-informed and illegitimate attacks on this important work."

Freshman House Democrat Ilhan Omar, one of the few Muslims in Congress, said Monday she "unequivocally" apologizes for tweets that were condemned by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and lawmakers from both parties as anti-Semitic.
#14987659
Do they complain about how Israel only allows them to game for 2 to 4 hours a day and how they live without gas and electricity for the rest of the day?


We dont give away free stuff
if they cant pay thats what they gonna recieve
this is the responsibility of their government (Hamas)

I mean, did they all even live in homes or do they live amongst rubble as many in Gaza continue to do after Israelis carpet-bombed the enclave?


They live in normal homes
most people live in normal houses in Gaza very few live in rubble
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colliric wrote:Nope. It was all remaining 11. They ALL saw him in the upper room and back on the shores of Lake Gennasaret(John's Gospel).


Nope that was once again most of them.


Nope, as portrayed in The Passion there was a brief violent brawl as they tried to stop it. Simon Peter cuts off the ear of Malcus with a sword. Jesus CALMS EVERYONE DOWN(and heals Malcus). Only one took off during the brawl(and that was John most believe) and most likely he took off to inform others.

Jesus was taken away.


IT WAS AT 3AM IN THE FUCKEN MORNING!!! and Pilate's Trial began at 6AM, he was up on the cross as early as 9AM. They did this so that none of his lay supporters knew until it was too late. THEY ACTED FAST AS HELL. The first his other supporters may have heard about this was the processional to Golgotha and by then it was too late to stop the Sanhedrin's psychotic murderous madness.


?? Their families.... Isn't that obvious?



No they didn't, not at the time. Remember that liar Simon Bar Kokhba?

Ask yourself who fucked over his campaign and why they fucked it over?

Hint: It was Galilians. It was after he claimed to be Messiah.... They had their own Candidate already.

Now go away.





The Disciples do bolt when the "authorities" show up. The "Last Supper" was added into the "sales brochure/Bible" decades later to explain/spin that as to help idiots accept it. Truth be told, all of the "evidence" of the so-called "miracles" comes from the MOUTHS of the Disciples, and hence their credibility is key. At the time the old Testament is in force = "God" controls who goes to "Heaven" and "Hell." The Disciples clearly know Jesus is a total fraud and they don't believe a word of the Old Testament. When they BOLT on the "Son" of God, they would have been guaranteeing their own entry into Hell if they believed. They clearly feared the CROSS a lot more than they feared HELL....

Christianity is a Jewish sponsored con game to get the unimaginably stupid to support ISRAEL.



And the stars fell from the sky like fig leaves.... never mind the smallest star known is 10 times the size of Jupiter...


The AUTHOR of Revelation didn't have a clue what a STAR really was....
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Hindsite wrote:House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Monday insisted that freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar immediately apologize for tweets saying that members of Congress are being paid by a powerful interest group to support Israel.

"Congresswoman Omar's use of anti-Semitic tropes and prejudicial accusations about Israel's supporters is deeply offensive," Pelosi said in a statement issued by her office and signed by other Democratic leaders after a bipartisan backlash against the Minnesota Democrat. "We condemn these remarks and we call upon Congresswoman Omar to immediately apologize for these hurtful comments."

The statement came after Omar tweeted over the weekend that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee is paying members of Congress to support Israel. Omar is one of two of the first Muslim women to serve in Congress.

"In our conversation today, Congresswoman Omar and I agreed that we must use this moment to move forward as we reject anti-Semitism in all forms," Pelosi said in a tweet that included the statement.

The leaders' statement came in the hours after a pair of powerful House chairman rebuked Omar for the remarks. Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot Engel said he would not tolerate them and found it "shocking to hear a Member of Congress invoke the anti-Semitic trope of 'Jewish money.'" He said he will emphasize to members of the panel of both parties that the American-Israeli relationship is important.

Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler named Omar in his statement and said she had failed a test of leadership.

AIPAC responded Sunday night: "We are proud that we are engaged in the democratic process to strengthen the US-Israel relationship. Our bipartisan efforts are reflective of American values and interests. We will not be deterred in any way by ill-informed and illegitimate attacks on this important work."

Freshman House Democrat Ilhan Omar, one of the few Muslims in Congress, said Monday she "unequivocally" apologizes for tweets that were condemned by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and lawmakers from both parties as anti-Semitic.





To notice that there is Jewish money in American politics is now "anti-semitic..."

Gosh, just imagine the uproar if this Rep had recommended everyone go to GOOGLE and type

GADDAFI JEWISH
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LaDexter wrote:To notice that there is Jewish money in American politics is now "anti-semitic..."

I am glad to hear this. No race should be excluded from donating money in American politics. Inclusion of all citizens is what American politics should be about.
HalleluYah
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Hindsite wrote:I am glad to hear this. No race should be excluded from donating money in American politics. Inclusion of all citizens is what American politics should be about.
HalleluYah


That's not the problem.

The problem comes when that money is obviously in large part coming from Israel and the AIPAC is openly extremely cosy with a foreign government.
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Hi this thread is about the weekly executions of prisoners of concentration-camp Gaza by zionist snipers outside the prison walls, not what an American congresswoman correctly stated about AIPAC, that lobby group that serves Israeli interests over American interests. Make a separate thread if you want to discuss that further, thank you.

On topic:







Zionist Nationalist wrote:We dont give away free stuff
if they cant pay thats what they gonna recieve
this is the responsibility of their government (Hamas)


Your politicians control when electricity goes on and off in concentration-camp Gaza. The same people instructed the terrorists in your air force to bomb and destroy the only power plant in Gaza. Currently the electricity is on for 2 to 4 hours per day thanks to your savage government.

They live in normal homes
most people live in normal houses in Gaza very few live in rubble


That's not true at all. Watch the documentary Killing Gaza. It's still the case that people still live amongst the rubble of their destroyed homes. 20,000 homes were destroyed in the last war upon the concentration camp, as well as block towers.
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Your politicians control when electricity goes on and off in concentration-camp Gaza. The same people instructed the terrorists in your air force to bomb and destroy the only power plant in Gaza. Currently the electricity is on for 2 to 4 hours per day thanks to your savage government.


Thats what happen when a terrorist organization takes control

I dont want to pay from my taxes for their electicity either they should ask for donations or get the 2-4 hours they are lucky to get
or maybe stop throwing cash at stupid tunnels which we will find anyway and invest in infrastructure
That's not true at all. Watch the documentary Killing Gaza. It's still the case that people still live amongst the rubble of their destroyed homes. 20,000 homes were destroyed in the last war upon the concentration camp, as well as block towers.


Gaza have 2 million population (more than the west bank)
even if 20k families are living in ruble lets say 4 persons per family on average that means 80k lets add to that another 100k for the lulz
even if it was 500k its still not the majority
provide a proof that most living in rubble or cut the bullshit
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I'm going to post Pastor Steven Anderson's new film Beyond Jordan in this thread as soon as it becomes available.



I liked his film Marching To Zion. I know he used shady methods to get the Rabbi's to say yes for an interview, but the documentary was very factual.
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Hindsite wrote:What foreign government?


?

Netanyahu's of cause....

It is a Foreign Government.

The Russians would never be allowed to setup ARPAC, and the Chinese would never be allowed to run ACPAC would they? No of cause not. But Israel has its stupid privileges of cause....
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colliric wrote:?

Netanyahu's of cause....

It is a Foreign Government.

The Russians would never be allowed to setup ARPAC, and the Chinese would never be allowed to run ACPAC would they? No of cause not. But Israel has its stupid privileges of cause....

Maybe that is because Israel is considered a democracy and we have many Jews living in the USA and they deserve representation in our democracy.
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Israel is the problem. Israel is behind almost all of the so-called "terror," including 911.

We were warned by Einstein about this....

Einstein Letter Warning Of
Zionist Fascism In Israel
Letter That Albert Einstein Sent to the New York Times
1948, Protesting the Visit of Menachem Begin
11-1-4



Letters to the Editor
New York Times
December 4, 1948

TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughoutthe world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.


Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village

A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants ? 240men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.

Discrepancies Seen

The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.

In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ
HANNAH ARENDT
ABRAHAM BRICK
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO
ALBERT EINSTEIN
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.
HAYIM FINEMAN
M. GALLEN, M.D.
H.H. HARRIS
ZELIG S. HARRIS
SIDNEY HOOK
FRED KARUSH
BRURIA KAUFMAN
IRMA L. LINDHEIM
NACHMAN MAISEL
SEYMOUR MELMAN
MYER D. MENDELSON
M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY
SAMUEL PITLICK
FRITZ ROHRLICH
LOUIS P. ROCKER
RUTH SAGIS
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY
I.J. SHOENBERG
SAMUEL SHUMAN
M. SINGER
IRMA WOLFE
STEFAN WOLF.

New York, Dec. 2, 1948
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Jerusalem: A cup of trembling and a burdensome stone

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 | Nicole Horrelt

The prophecy of Zechariah Chapter 12 was written approximately 2500 years ago predicting a future day when the world’s focus would be on Jerusalem:

“Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.”

“And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”


Further in verses 7, 8 and 9, the prophecy makes it clear that God will ultimately save the city and its people, but to the surrounding nations, the attempted conquest of Jerusalem will cause them great trouble, and to every nation pressuring to lift Jerusalem out of Jewish control, it will prove to be a heavy burden, and be injurious to them all.

This is widely regarded as an End Time prophecy, and by examining the current geo-political and spiritual situation of the Middle East conflict, it is safe to say the time-frame of this prophecy is upon us.

The words to Israel’s national anthem, “Hatikvah” (The Hope) written in 1886 by Naphtali Herz Imber, express the powerful emotion and inmost God-given desire of the Jewish people, and the deep longing of the Jewish heart while living in exile among the nations, for their homeland. Praying, they faced Jerusalem, and never gave up the hope for their promised return there, as prophesied in the word of God. (Isaiah 11:11-12; Ezekiel 36:8-11 Ezekiel 37:21-22; Ezekiel 38:8, Isaiah 43:5-6; Jeremiah 31:7-10)

Today, millions of Jewish people have returned, and many are still making aliyah, as prophesied in the Bible.

However, the Islamic community, the nations surrounding Israel (Psalm 83:4-8), the international community, and the Vatican - all have a different goal in mind for Jerusalem. They would all remove complete Jewish control over the city and erase the Jewish victory in the June 1967 (miraculous) Six Day War, and either divide Jerusalem, or attempt a complete conquest of it, if they could.

The call of the world at this time then is the attempt to lift this ‘immovable rock,’ but in return, to only find that the word of God is the unshakeable truth. All who burden themselves with pressuring Israel in changing what God has said in His word concerning Jerusalem, will find themselves facing nothing less than God’s judgment. Jerusalem will be a cup of trembling to the surrounding nations attempting to take it over from Israel; the Six Day War is an example of the supernatural protection around this Holy Land. His word is faithful and true.

At present, the US and Israel are negotiating a deal that would effectively bring both the Palestinians and Israel back to the table for direct peace talks, under the pressure from the international community, with the prospect to bring about a “two-state solution” that would supposedly solve the Middle East conflict.

The negotiations are stalled at the moment as Israel is waiting for a written letter of promise back from the Obama Administration assuring them that this current construction freeze demand does not include “East Jerusalem”; it is “only” imposed on construction in Judea and Samaria. Israel is to receive certain military gestures, security guarantees, and 20 aircraft, in return for agreeing to the freeze.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has strongly declared to the Obama Administration that “Jerusalem is not a settlement, it is our Capital!” He has stated previously that Jerusalem is not to be included in this round of talks. However, the letter from the US is slow in coming back - apparently the Obama Administration does not want Israel to continue building in East Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a burdensome stone!

Israel is like a banner to the entire world that the word of God is the truth. With each passing day, as Jerusalem becomes more and more the center of the world’s attention, it will become increasingly difficult for anyone to dispute the incredible accuracy of these ancient prophecies. Truly, the time to seek God is now, if you don’t know Him. Zechariah Chapter 12 ends with the Messiah’s prophesied return:

“And in that day I will set about to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.”

Let us Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem - Psalm 122.

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/t ... fault.aspx

I will gather all the nations And bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. Then I will enter into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; And they have divided up My land.
(Joel 3:2 NASB)

Praise and glory to the Lord.

A Burdensome Stone - The Obsession - World Leaders React to Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital



Jerusalem A Cup of Trembling and a Burdensome Stone! Bible Prophecy in World News

The Christadelphian Watchman
Published on Jul 6, 2014

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Hindsite that was about the Roman Siege of Jerusalem in 70AD and the subsequent brutal wars the Roman Army had to fight.

Destroying Jerusalem took a large number of Roman lives and the Roman Army was also made up significantly of Foreigners from surrounding loyal kingdoms and conquests. They fought for nearly 75 years over three brutal wars.

Judea(Judah or Yehudah in Hebrew, Judea is the Latin name) was ACTUALLY CALLED JUDEA back then. It is NOT CALLED THAT NOW.

"All that burden themselves with it"..... The Jews(who were not believers in Jesus), descended upon their Holy City enmass according to Flavius Josephus, and over 1.1 Million Jews died in the Jerusalem Siege alone because of this. They "Burden(ed) themselves with it", they did not need to commit mass suicide by fighting a war lost before it was even started.

They should not have gone there.
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colliric wrote:Hindsite that was about the Roman Siege of Jerusalem in 70AD and the subsequent brutal wars the Roman Army had to fight.

No, it is not about 70 AD. It is about our day and what is happening today and the near future when Jerusalem’s enemies will Be Destroyed. This did not happen in 70 AD.

“On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot in a woodpile, like a flaming torch among sheaves. They will consume all the surrounding peoples right and left, but Jerusalem will remain intact in her place.

“The Lord will save the dwellings of Judah first, so that the honor of the house of David and of Jerusalem’s inhabitants may not be greater than that of Judah. On that day the Lord will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the angel of the Lord going before them. On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.


(Zechariah 12:6-9 NIV)

Here is another one for our day:
Last Pope - Malachy Prophecy

Published on Sep 30, 2015

Acording to the 900 year old Malachy Prophecy the world now has it's last Pope.
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Lol.... Hindsite, the Saint Malachy Prophecy is a Roman Catholic prophetic work...

Secondly the Prophecy specifically states this Pope will be the first one to call himself Peter since Saint Peter himself and will break the tradition of not taking that name. He will take the name of Peter The Second breaking one of the Catholic Church's oldest traditions. He will also be Italian(Or Roman).

The Prophecy allows for any number of Pope's from between the second last listed to the last listed.

Pope Francis is NOT the last Pope, he DID NOT take the name of "Peter The Second".
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colliric wrote:Lol.... Hindsite, the Saint Malachy Prophecy is a Roman Catholic prophetic work...

Secondly the Prophecy specifically states this Pope will be the first one to call himself Peter since Saint Peter himself and will break the tradition of not taking that name. He will take the name of Peter The Second breaking one of the Catholic Church's oldest traditions. He will also be Italian(Or Roman).

The Prophecy allows for any number of Pope's from between the second last listed to the last listed.

Pope Francis is NOT the last Pope, he DID NOT take the name of "Peter The Second".

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