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By annatar1914
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Hindsite wrote:Are you suggesting that the Syrian conflict has something to do with socialism?


:eh:

No, nothing to do with Socialism whatsoever. But it does have everything to do with Oil and Natural Gas, and pipelines to bring the Oil and Natural Gas to Western Europe. Israel isn't in this respect an independent Jewish State, but a Western Colonial Satrapy strategically located between the Suez canal and the ports on the Levant, to ensure the flow of the ''Devil's Excrement'' to keep the machines of Capitalism running smoothly.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote::eh:

No, nothing to do with Socialism whatsoever. But it does have everything to do with Oil and Natural Gas, and pipelines to bring the Oil and Natural Gas to Western Europe.

I think there is more to it than that.
annatar1914 wrote:Israel isn't in this respect an independent Jewish State, but a Western Colonial Satrapy strategically located between the Suez canal and the ports on the Levant, to ensure the flow of the ''Devil's Excrement'' to keep the machines of Capitalism running smoothly.

I know that Israel has needed some help from the USA to maintain the only capitalist democracy in the area, but I am not aware of it receiving anything but condemnation from the majority of European nations through the UN.
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I think there is more to it than that.


No, not to the people who really ''count'', it means exactly what I said it does.

I know that Israel has needed some help from the USA to maintain the only capitalist democracy in the area


With Capitalism, ''democracy'' is just empty words to fool the working people.

Israel isn't a democracy, doesn't even have a Constitution. It is said to be a ''Jewish Democracy'', but in fact it can't be both. Either it becomes a democracy and then ceases to be Jewish, or it keeps being Jewish and loses even the illusion of being a democratic and republican nation.



, but I am not aware of it receiving anything but condemnation from the majority of European nations through the UN.


Do mere words effect you? Because that's what the European ''condemnations'' are, just words, and effect Israel not in the slightest. The European Elites know what function Israel serves in enforcing the post-1945 New World Order in the Middle East, and are happy to do business with them.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:No, not to the people who really ''count'', it means exactly what I said it does.

Who are the people that you think really counts?

annatar1914 wrote:With Capitalism, ''democracy'' is just empty words to fool the working people.

If the people choose capitalism over socialism, then it is democracy.

annatar1914 wrote:Israel isn't a democracy, doesn't even have a Constitution. It is said to be a ''Jewish Democracy'', but in fact it can't be both. Either it becomes a democracy and then ceases to be Jewish, or it keeps being Jewish and loses even the illusion of being a democratic and republican nation.

Israel is a parliamentary democracy, consisting of legislative, executive and judicial branches. Instead of a written constitution, a standing Constitutional, Legislative, and Judicial Committee was established in the Knesset and charged with the responsibility of drafting Basic Laws, chapter by chapter, for submission to the Knesset. Their approval, nominally by an absolute majority of the Knesset (at least sixty-one votes) gives them constitutional status.

annatar1914 wrote:Do mere words effect you? Because that's what the European ''condemnations'' are, just words, and effect Israel not in the slightest. The European Elites know what function Israel serves in enforcing the post-1945 New World Order in the Middle East, and are happy to do business with them.

Yes, I am concerned about words. I said the UN for United Nations, not EU for European Union.
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@Hindsite

Who are the people that you think really counts?


Always and everywhere, the rich and powerful do what they will and the poor and the powerless pretty much do as they must-obey the rich and powerful.


If the people choose capitalism over socialism, then it is democracy.


Wrong. Capitalism is private control by the wealthy and powerful over the economic life of the country, and so the working man is not free if he is not economically free over their control. That is not real ''Democracy'', but fake ''Democracy'', where the wealthy and powerful purchase votes and purchase politicians to do what they want to, over any objections from the common people who don't have the means to influence the government more than the Rich.


Israel is a parliamentary democracy, consisting of legislative, executive and judicial branches. Instead of a written constitution, a standing Constitutional, Legislative, and Judicial Committee was established in the Knesset and charged with the responsibility of drafting Basic Laws, chapter by chapter, for submission to the Knesset. Their approval, nominally by an absolute majority of the Knesset (at least sixty-one votes) gives them constitutional status.


So, ad hoc, make-up-as-we-go-along bullshit law, got it.

Yes, I am concerned about words. I said the UN for United Nations, not EU for European Union.


Both suck.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:@Hindsite

Always and everywhere, the rich and powerful do what they will and the poor and the powerless pretty much do as they must-obey the rich and powerful.

Wrong. Capitalism is private control by the wealthy and powerful over the economic life of the country, and so the working man is not free if he is not economically free over their control. That is not real ''Democracy'', but fake ''Democracy'', where the wealthy and powerful purchase votes and purchase politicians to do what they want to, over any objections from the common people who don't have the means to influence the government more than the Rich.

So, ad hoc, make-up-as-we-go-along bullshit law, got it.

Both suck.

You seem to have a very pessimistic viewpoint. Perhaps you should get some profession help with that.
By annatar1914
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Hindsite wrote:You seem to have a very pessimistic viewpoint. Perhaps you should get some profession help with that.


Not a pessimistic viewpoint, but a Biblical one which happens to also be the realistic viewpoint. I trust God, not sinful men and their greed and lusts. Look into the mirror, and around yourself every day, and you know that to be true. God however is good and merciful all the time, and loves mankind. We have only to knock and the door will be opened.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:Not a pessimistic viewpoint, but a Biblical one which happens to also be the realistic viewpoint. I trust God, not sinful men and their greed and lusts. Look into the mirror, and around yourself every day, and you know that to be true. God however is good and merciful all the time, and loves mankind. We have only to knock and the door will be opened.

That is why God gave us the Trump of God to help make America great again.
Praise the Lord.
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Hindsite wrote:That is why God gave us the Trump of God to help make America great again.
Praise the Lord.


You blindly refuse to see what that Scripture quote ''trust not in princes'' refers to. Trust in the Lord, and only the Lord. Politicians and rulers are not to be trusted, but feared. Few are good men, and some are outright evil even though they may sometimes pass as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

I don't trust a man who lobs missiles at another country on account of false chemical attack claims cooked up by Jihadis because they're losing in Syria.

Deeds, not words.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:You blindly refuse to see what that Scripture quote ''trust not in princes'' refers to. Trust in the Lord, and only the Lord. Politicians and rulers are not to be trusted, but feared. Few are good men, and some are outright evil even though they may sometimes pass as a wolf in sheep's clothing.

By me kings reign, And rulers decree justice. By me princes rule, and nobles, All who judge rightly.
(Proverbs 8:15-16 NASB)

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
(Romans 13:1-4 NASB)

annatar1914 wrote:I don't trust a man who lobs missiles at another country on account of false chemical attack claims cooked up by Jihadis because they're losing in Syria.

Deeds, not words.

Evidence shows Syria 'attacked own people with chemical weapons', say US, UK and France

Patrick Sawer, senior reporter
14 APRIL 2018 • 4:49PM

The Syrian regime used barrel bombs dropped by helicopter in a chemical weapon attack on its own people in the city of Douma, according to the US, France and Britain yesterday.

Justifying the decision to mount air strikes against Syria the three governments laid out evidence that the regime had used chemical weapons in the attack earlier this month, which opposition activists, rescue workers and medics say killed more than 40 civilians.

In a statement the White House said: “Multiple government helicopters were observed over Douma on April 7, with witnesses specifically reporting a Mi-8 helicopter, known to have taken off from the Syrian regime’s nearby Dumayr airfield, circling over Douma during the attack.

Numerous eyewitnesses corroborate that barrel bombs were dropped from these helicopters, a tactic used to target civilians indiscriminately throughout the war. Photos of barrel bombs dropped in Douma closely match those used previously by the regime. These barrel bombs were likely used in the chemical attack.”

Mrs May said: "Open source accounts allege that a barrel bomb was used to deliver the chemicals. Multiple open source reports claim that a Regime helicopter was observed above the city of Douma on the evening of 7th April.

"The Opposition does not operate helicopters or use barrel bombs. And reliable intelligence indicates that Syrian military officials co-ordinated what appears to be the use of chlorine in Douma on 7th April."

The Prime Minister also indicated there was other intelligence based evidence which she was unable to share with the public, saying: "I cannot tell you everything.”

France has also said it has similar proof that "chemical weapons were used in the attack - at least chlorine - and that they were used by Bashar al-Assad's regime.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... ns-say-us/
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@Hindsite


By me kings reign, And rulers decree justice. By me princes rule, and nobles, All who judge rightly.
(Proverbs 8:15-16 NASB)


Yes, all who judge rightly. Not those who judge unjustly, for those are not rulers at all, but tyrants, usurpers, criminals.

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
(Romans 13:1-4 NASB)


Exactly, so it is a sin for one nation's government to try to have people overthrow the legitimate sovereign governments of other nations.

Evidence shows Syria 'attacked own people with chemical weapons', say US, UK and France

Patrick Sawer, senior reporter
14 APRIL 2018 • 4:49PM

The Syrian regime used barrel bombs dropped by helicopter in a chemical weapon attack on its own people in the city of Douma, according to the US, France and Britain yesterday.

Justifying the decision to mount air strikes against Syria the three governments laid out evidence that the regime had used chemical weapons in the attack earlier this month, which opposition activists, rescue workers and medics say killed more than 40 civilians.

In a statement the White House said: “Multiple government helicopters were observed over Douma on April 7, with witnesses specifically reporting a Mi-8 helicopter, known to have taken off from the Syrian regime’s nearby Dumayr airfield, circling over Douma during the attack.

Numerous eyewitnesses corroborate that barrel bombs were dropped from these helicopters, a tactic used to target civilians indiscriminately throughout the war. Photos of barrel bombs dropped in Douma closely match those used previously by the regime. These barrel bombs were likely used in the chemical attack.”

Mrs May said: "Open source accounts allege that a barrel bomb was used to deliver the chemicals. Multiple open source reports claim that a Regime helicopter was observed above the city of Douma on the evening of 7th April.

"The Opposition does not operate helicopters or use barrel bombs. And reliable intelligence indicates that Syrian military officials co-ordinated what appears to be the use of chlorine in Douma on 7th April."

The Prime Minister also indicated there was other intelligence based evidence which she was unable to share with the public, saying: "I cannot tell you everything.”

France has also said it has similar proof that "chemical weapons were used in the attack - at least chlorine - and that they were used by Bashar al-Assad's regime.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... ns-say-us/


Total and complete lies, and shameless lies at that, spread among a gullible population that has no clue about the circumstances nor of chemical warfare, by a liberal media complicit in a de facto alliance with Muslim jihadis.

You should be ashamed of yourself for even spreading such garbage.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:@Hindsite
Total and complete lies, and shameless lies at that, spread among a gullible population that has no clue about the circumstances nor of chemical warfare, by a liberal media complicit in a de facto alliance with Muslim jihadis.

You should be ashamed of yourself for even spreading such garbage.

I was simply pointing out what was believed to be the facts at the time. If you have different facts, then present your references so we all can decide what to believe.
By annatar1914
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Hindsite wrote:I was simply pointing out what was believed to be the facts at the time. If you have different facts, then present your references so we all can decide what to believe.


That is untrue. The Administration knew what the facts were and decided at a punitive measure against the Syrian government because the CIA's Jihadis (not necessarily all the Jihadis, but allied to them...) were getting demolished by the forces of the Syrian people and their government, and their government's allies the Russians.

Read this;

https://thesaker.is/a-multi-level-analy ... sequences/

It is a look at the fake chemical attacks (linked in the article) and the stupid cruise missile attack on Syria.

You don't seem to understand the extend to which the Obama/Clinton Administration was complicit in the murder of thousands of Syrian people by a savage force of Muslim terrorists-same as in Libya and elsewhere-intent on destroying that country. There is blood on both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's hands, they are war criminals by the standards we established at the end of World War Two.

And the Trump Administration has now only reluctantly decided-I think-to pull back the illegal presence of US troops on the sovereign territory of a nation whose legitimate government did not invite them there.

Stupid, arrogant, and evil, that's the people who you support, with the blood and suffering of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, on their hands. And they count on people like you supporting them. ''Christian'', but enabling Christianity in places like Iraq and Syria to be almost wiped out... It makes me sick to my stomach, and enraged to the point of fury, that it's people like you that make all this blood and sorrow possible... And you folks could care less.

And I would add that since you appear to be a person whose loyalties lie with Israel first and foremost, that the plans to have Muslim Jihadis conquer Syria would have presented a very dire threat to Israel's existence, and so this was a very stupid idea for Israel for example to treat Muslim terrorists wounded fighting Assad in Syria to be taken care of in Israeli hospitals...

No, this will all come back to bite the Israelis on the ass, but with your friends in the End Times Death Cult, Jewish lives only superficially appear to be more precious than gentile lives, what matters more is that their theories on the End Times be proven correct, so they can be swooped up by God in the ''Rapture'' and cheat natural regular death....
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:@Hindsite
Yes, all who judge rightly. Not those who judge unjustly, for those are not rulers at all, but tyrants, usurpers, criminals.

Exactly, so it is a sin for one nation's government to try to have people overthrow the legitimate sovereign governments of other nations.

God can use any means he wishes to overthrow the wicked.

It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men And knowledge to men of understanding.
(Daniel 2:21 NASB)

But God is the Judge; He puts down one and exalts another.
(Psalm 75:7 NASB)

The LORD supports the afflicted; He brings down the wicked to the ground.
(Psalm 147:6 NASB)

annatar1914 wrote:That is untrue. The Administration knew what the facts were and decided at a punitive measure against the Syrian government because the CIA's Jihadis (not necessarily all the Jihadis, but allied to them...) were getting demolished by the forces of the Syrian people and their government, and their government's allies the Russians.

Read this;

https://thesaker.is/a-multi-level-analy ... sequences/

It is a look at the fake chemical attacks (linked in the article) and the stupid cruise missile attack on Syria.

You don't seem to understand the extend to which the Obama/Clinton Administration was complicit in the murder of thousands of Syrian people by a savage force of Muslim terrorists-same as in Libya and elsewhere-intent on destroying that country. There is blood on both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's hands, they are war criminals by the standards we established at the end of World War Two.

I am aware that most Republicans in Congress at that time attempted to make everyone aware of the corruption and evil actions of the Obama/Clinton Administration concerning Libya and Syria after the Benghazi terrorist attack killed four Americans including a U.S Ambassador in 2012. However, the Democrats where all in to protect Obama and Clinton, regardless.

However, the governments of France and the United Kingdom also agreed that it was Assad's regime that launched the chemical attacks. And because Obama was accused of doing nothing after Assad's regime crossed his red line of using chemical weapon, Trump felt compelled to do something to send a warning message to Assad that more chemical attacks would not be tolerated by launching that missile attack on the base where the aircraft used was located. It was not meant to do serious damage at that time, but only as a warning that serious damage would be coming, if Assad continued to use chemical weapons.

annatar1914 wrote:And the Trump Administration has now only reluctantly decided-I think-to pull back the illegal presence of US troops on the sovereign territory of a nation whose legitimate government did not invite them there.

Trump wants to remove the troops because he believed that the only reason they were there was to help Kurds fight to destroy the ISIS caliphate. Others want to keep the troops there to continue to help the Kurds against possible retaliation from Turkey.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... -1.6765943

annatar1914 wrote:Stupid, arrogant, and evil, that's the people who you support, with the blood and suffering of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, on their hands. And they count on people like you supporting them. ''Christian'', but enabling Christianity in places like Iraq and Syria to be almost wiped out... It makes me sick to my stomach, and enraged to the point of fury, that it's people like you that make all this blood and sorrow possible... And you folks could care less.

I do care about stopping all evil, but we have a divided country and the Democrats will not even allow the President to secure our own borders. They seem to be the ones that don't care, not President Trump.

annatar1914 wrote:And I would add that since you appear to be a person whose loyalties lie with Israel first and foremost, that the plans to have Muslim Jihadis conquer Syria would have presented a very dire threat to Israel's existence, and so this was a very stupid idea for Israel for example to treat Muslim terrorists wounded fighting Assad in Syria to be taken care of in Israeli hospitals...

Israeli's are a humane people, like the American people, who believe that emergency medical aid should be given to everyone in need.
Praise the Lord.
By annatar1914
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@Hindsite

God can use any means he wishes to overthrow the wicked.


Is it wicked of a country's government to not want it's citizens to live under Sharia law? It's large Christian population not to be persecuted or even exterminated?

You've decided in your own wicked evil to relegate entire countries to ''wicked'' status, to be dealt with as they wish by the ''Chosen'' . That makes your kind Fascist Nazi type scum in my book.

It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men And knowledge to men of understanding.
(Daniel 2:21 NASB)

But God is the Judge; He puts down one and exalts another.
(Psalm 75:7 NASB)

The LORD supports the afflicted; He brings down the wicked to the ground.
(Psalm 147:6 NASB)


I take great comfort in those words, so that I am reminded that the evil Supremacists who exalt their race over others and initiate wars of conquest and destruction over others, causing untold suffering and misery over the rest of humanity, will die screaming, forever.


I am aware that most Republicans in Congress at that time attempted to make everyone aware of the corruption and evil actions of the Obama/Clinton Administration


Total mendacious lies. The GOP Establishment Israel Firsters like Senators Linda Graham and that vile traitor John McCain were pushing the Obama Administration to go even further in Libya and Syria than they already were.


concerning Libya and Syria after the Benghazi terrorist attack killed four Americans including a U.S Ambassador in 2012. However, the Democrats where all in to protect Obama and Clinton, regardless.


No, like I said, your group of traitors to America decided that they were going to close ranks with the Democrats on this issue, as with many other issues.

However, the governments of France and the United Kingdom also agreed that it was Assad's regime that launched the chemical attacks.


Yes, run by your Liberal friends also.


And because Obama was accused of doing nothing after Assad's regime crossed his red line of using chemical weapon,


You must be stupid, or evil, because if you'd read the information in the articles I linked you, you'd know no such attack happened; ''fake news''. It was a desperate Jihadi plot to get the United States and Europe into the war on their side, just as had happened in Bosnia in the 1990's, and with Libya a couple years before.



Trump felt compelled to do something to send a warning message to Assad that more chemical attacks would not be tolerated by launching that missile attack on the base where the aircraft used was located.


Wrong again. Trump felt pressured by fellow Republicans (who are treasonous shills in the employ of the Oil Sheikdoms and Israel) to do something, so he did as little as possible, and gave the Syrians and Russians two hours warning ahead of time.

''Fake Chemical Attack'' warranted ''Fake Missile Attack''....

It was not meant to do serious damage at that time, but only as a warning that serious damage would be coming, if Assad continued to use chemical weapons.


As I said, lying bullshit that makes you a shameless liar for continuing to spread.


Trump wants to remove the troops because he believed that the only reason they were there was to help Kurds fight to destroy the ISIS caliphate. Others want to keep the troops there to continue to help the Kurds against possible retaliation from Turkey.


More lies. US Troops were there to help the Syrian Kurds try to treasonously rebel against their Country, and create their own nation there. And that area just happens to have all of Syria's oil and natural gas fields.

You are a accomplice to theft, and worse, if you continue to spread these vile and evil stories.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/.premium-trump-has-just-betrayed-the-kurds-america-s-most-reliable-ally-against-isis-1.6765943


Fact is, that there are two countries that have done 99% of the fighting against ISIS and Al-Qaida in Syria; the Syrian Army, and Russia. And in fact, the Jihadis have used the fact that American forces rarely come out of their bases to hide as near as possible to those bases, to avoid being destroyed by Syrian Army or Russian forces.


I do care about stopping all evil, but we have a divided country and the Democrats will not even allow the President to secure our own borders. They seem to be the ones that don't care, not President Trump.


Get out of meddling in other countries affairs, and having American boys die for your sick end times fantasies, and we'd have the ability to focus on domestic problems much better. Your sort has a lot of blood on their hands.


Israeli's are a humane people, like the American people, who believe that emergency medical aid should be given to everyone in need.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Praise the Lord.


God is not mocked.

Every time you say that, and hold to your doctrines of devils, you heap coals of eternal fire on your head. I say that and it sounds harsh, but I care enough about you personally to give you these warnings of the road you're headed down.
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By Hindsite
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annatar1914 wrote:@Hindsite
Is it wicked of a country's government to not want it's citizens to live under Sharia law? It's large Christian population not to be persecuted or even exterminated?

No.

annatar1914 wrote:You've decided in your own wicked evil to relegate entire countries to ''wicked'' status, to be dealt with as they wish by the ''Chosen'' . That makes your kind Fascist Nazi type scum in my book.

I did not do any such thing. You are just making up crap.

annatar1914 wrote:Total mendacious lies. The GOP Establishment Israel Firsters like Senators Linda Graham and that vile traitor John McCain were pushing the Obama Administration to go even further in Libya and Syria than they already were.

Not total lies since John McCain and Lindsey Graham are not most of the Republicans in Congress.

annatar1914 wrote:You must be stupid, or evil, because if you'd read the information in the articles I linked you, you'd know no such attack happened; ''fake news''. It was a desperate Jihadi plot to get the United States and Europe into the war on their side, just as had happened in Bosnia in the 1990's, and with Libya a couple years before.

Calling people that disagree with you stupid or evil is not the way to make friends or influence people.

annatar1914 wrote:As I said, lying bullshit that makes you a shameless liar for continuing to spread.

More lies. US Troops were there to help the Syrian Kurds try to treasonously rebel against their Country, and create their own nation there. And that area just happens to have all of Syria's oil and natural gas fields.

That is your opinion, but I disagree.
By annatar1914
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@Hindsite

No.


Then if that's not the case, stop persecuting the people of Syria with your twisted writings implying they deserve their fate of war and death.

I did not do any such thing. You are just making up crap.


By repeating lies when you've had the opportunity to know better, you are.


Not total lies since John McCain and Lindsey Graham are not most of the Republicans in Congress.


Those were just the outstanding examples of these whores, not the full roster of traitors to America in the GOP.


Calling people that disagree with you stupid or evil is not the way to make friends or influence people.


I'm here to tell the truth, not make friends or influence people. And i've learned that shaming people who are still capable of shame, because they still have a conscience, works best into getting them to rethink their bullshit.


That is your opinion, but I disagree.


No, the Deep State Elites and their liberal lapdogs you're carrying water for have been open about their efforts to create a Kurdistan out of parts of Syria and Iraq, which is what got the Turks involved, and the Iranians too to an extent. Your devilish blood brothers want war, war to extract oil and natural gas from a new and terribly poor country they can exploit and have totally dependent on them, much as they've done with the new and poor country of South Sudan they created.

You're shilling for the war mongers and money worshipers. A fine thing for a alleged follower of the Prince of Peace to do.
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By Hindsite
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Syria conflict: What do the US, Russia, Turkey and Iran want?

United States

— Who it supports: Washington had given weapons and military training to moderate rebel factions fighting against government forces loyal to President Bashar Assad, but the US ended military aid in 2017 and later cut some $230 million (€198 million) in reconstruction aid. The US has provided air support and weapons to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), an alliance of Kurdish and Arab forces fighting against "Islamic State" (IS) militants in northern Syria. Several hundred US special forces were deployed alongside the SDF.

— Who it's fighting against: The US has been leading an international coalition of nearly 60 countries, including Germany, targeting IS and other extremist groups with airstrikes since late 2014. The US has largely avoided direct conflict with pro-regime forces, but in 2017 US President Donald Trump ordered airstrikes on a Syrian airbase in response to a government chemical weapons attack against civilians. He surprised allies in December when he announced the unilateral withdrawal of US troops in Syria, saying: "We have defeated ISIS in Syria." His own advisers later walked back that statement leaving US allies unclear what the country's exact policy would be.

— What it wants: The US had remained steadfast in a commitment to trying to destroy IS in Syria and Iraq. However, its intentions on other issues have become unclear. In 2017, Trump told reporters that the US has "very little to do with Syria other than killing IS." But up to that point it had been deeply involved in brokering a ceasefire between government and opposition forces. The Trump administration has also given conflicting signals as to whether the US would oppose a peace deal keeping Assad in power. The US also seeks to block Iran and the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah from establishing a permanent presence in Syria that could threaten Israel.

— Which peace talks it supports: Washington has supported UN peace talks held in Geneva since 2012 between representatives from the Assad government and the Syrian opposition. But those talks have so far failed to reach a breakthrough. Both sides have disagreed about whether Assad's departure should be a precondition for any final settlement.

https://www.dw.com/en/syria-conflict-wh ... a-41211604
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By redcarpet
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ISIS is still there, albeit say 90% defeated. Mostly by the Russians, Peshmerga and Iran. For the Western states just a propaganda tool to rationalise a war of aggression into Syria weakened and torn to shreds by civil war (as well as Iraq). Same for the victims, it was never about them or 'caring' about them, or their crying relatives!

"In a final act of depravity, fleeing ISIS beheaded 50 Yazidi sex slaves, dumping their heads into trash bins for coalition soldiers to find."

https://clarionproject.org/isis-behe...-parting-gift/

Why aren't we hearing about these "mentally ill" savages on the evening news?
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