- 19 Mar 2019 11:16
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How wasteful. Just throw them into thermal power generators. Their burning fat could fuel cities for decades.
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Red_Army wrote:That's fair and I agree that she could have worded it better, but the larger point that mainstream Islamophobia (not just far-right murderers) contribute to thinking this stuff is OK.
Red_Army wrote:The "west" has been waging a war against muslims for a few decades now. I don't think Chelsea Clinton is anywhere near to blame for this, but like I mentioned earlier her and other liberals bullshit condolences are obviously going to upset people who know what they really stand for, especially in this case where it's a muslim woman.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:Whoever thinks mass murder or terror is OK is not going to take his cues from the mainstream.
The US, with the most relaxed speech and gun laws, doesn't seem to have more attacks that target Muslims than other western countries which are far stricter in both areas. I'm interested in this supposed mainstream Islamophobia though. Can you give me some examples?
Nobody is waging war against Muslims, but even if they were, Chelsea Clinton has never had a hand in it. What is she supposed to do when invited to a vigil? Are basic manners now offensive to lefties?
Pants-of-dog wrote:It is not difficult to convince the majority to support things like genocide and attacks against civilians.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Most US citizens have no problem with Shock and Awe, or supporting Saudi Arabia in its oppression. The only difference between this and other attacks against Muslims (that have been supported by large portions of conservatives) is the degree of harm.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Trump’s Muslim ban.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Yes, many countries are currently bombing Muslim majority countires, or have done so in the last decade or two. While Ms. Clinton may not have personally had a hand in it, her parents did (assum8ng she is the daughter of Billary). Since her parents were directly involved in war campaigns that killed Muslim innocents, it seems hypocritical on the part of the Clintons to pretend that it is a bad thing when non-government actors do the same thing.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:It seems we are now in conspiracy theory territory. Please provide evidence that majorities in western countries can easily be convinced to support genocide or terror attacks against civilians. Thanks.
Sivad wrote:You're joking, right?
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:Not at all.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:It seems we are now in conspiracy theory territory. Please provide evidence that majorities in western countries can easily be convinced to support genocide or terror attacks against civilians. Thanks.
Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country.
Western countries have not attempted genocide or targeted civilians in their military operations. In fact, they usually try to minimise civilian casualties, although not always successfully.
There was never a Muslim ban.
That's not the same as "waging war against Muslims".
As you note yourself, one of the west's long-standing allies is Saudi Arabia, a Muslim majority country. There are also plenty of other Muslim majority countries which are either neutral or allied to the west.
There is a qualitative difference between targeting civilians and not being able to prevent civilian casualties, and it's usually this difference that prevents the carnage and evil that western people seem to be no longer able to imagine.
Why is Chelsea Clinton responsible for her parents' actions?
Verv wrote:The initial question here of whether or not the majority of people can be convinced to carry out genocide is interesting.
On the one hand, genocide happens frequently enough, and it can really rise up in somewhat short timelines...
But, on the other hand, it also seems clear that it tends to only occur when desperate circumstances have been encountered and the average person does feel threatened, and this does not describe the case of anyone in the West these days.
At least not materially. Plenty of people feel other sorts of long-term existential threads, and that is why NZ happened. And it would probably be argued by people who are apologists for Islamic extremism that it is out of a similar desperate mindset.
Verv wrote:The Nazis rose to power in 1933 because the Germans felt that their entire society was collapsing & tanking because of the economic hardship and the morally disturbing condition of Berlin, right.
Many people seem to set the beginning of the Holocaust as 1941.
What is kind of ironic is that you could argue that Germany faced a grave threat during the economic collapse -- not necessarily a threat to the existence of Germany itself, but a personal threat and pain for every German person, and then again by 1939 and 1941 (and so on) we are coming around to another new series of threats to their safety.
It's also worth noting that some people claim that the average Germans tended to be unaware of the Holocaust, though I don't know the details about this. I am sure someone else could illuminate us further about it.
Victoribus Spolia wrote:I'm not partial, as it seems that the elite push for mass disarmament whether the baddies bow to the swastika or the crescent moon.
Fuck them both and fuck the elites who use these sorts of things to take away guns from law abiding people.
But lets not pretend that the same "solution" is not advocated for even after Islamic attacks.
If there is a false-flag here, those on the ethno-nat and fashy side need to point to something more substantial than "muh guns."
Likewise, anyone who really claims that white nationalism and supremacy is more of a threat than Islamic fundamentalism needs their head checked and should probably not go on twitter ever again and perhaps do some reading in history; starting with "the birth of Muhammad" and ending with "ISIS"
I also want to take this time to discuss genocides.
Far-Right statists: 6 million.
Far-Left statists: close to 100 million.
Ottoman Caliphate: 2 million plus.
Libertarian/Ancaps: 0
annatar1914 wrote:In my opinion, both some of the Globalist Western Elites and the Islamist Jihadis are Fascistic, and so it is in the interests of all these bad guys to use what was called (by actual Fascists in the 1970's!) the ''Strategy of Tension''.... Their planning went like this back in the 1970's; ''Crisis, Reaction, Solution''. They would carry out terrorist attacks under false fronts, ratchet up the outcry for a Police State to protect people, and then deliver it to them good and hard.
Igor Antunov wrote:Australian ISP's just blocked a bunch of sites. Included in the list of blocked websites are Voat, 4Chan, Zerohedge, 8Chan, and Liveleak.
Firing up the old VPN bois.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:It seems we are now in conspiracy theory territory. Please provide evidence that majorities in western countries can easily be convinced to support genocide or terror attacks against civilians. Thanks.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Nazi Germany.
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