noemon wrote:It is your double-standards that have been pointed out.
I don't consider either Omar or Trump's statements to be particularly racist. I think they are both inflammatory. That is, I think they have both learned that there is utility in transgressing political correctness. You see a double standard, because I prefer one of them to the other. In principle, however, I think they are doing the same thing--and, I agree with them for doing it.
noemon wrote:I see you are in the rambling stage at this point. Your rambling is non-sensical.
Maybe that's nonsensical in the UK or in Greece. In the US, that's the historical legacy of racism. Tweeting something is relatively new. Tweets don't silence people. Sometimes the management at Twitter censors people it doesn't agree with politically. However, racism has real and historical meaning in the US, such as segregated schooling. Abstract definitions of what constitutes racism may be very compelling to you. To many people, it is just a semantic engine for generating outrage.
noemon wrote:And what you wrote about Omar was simply not true, she did not say that about American Jews and she did not focus on a particular American ethnicity as you falsely claimed. You just made that up so that you can accuse her for the same "racism" that you are excusing Trump for.
I didn't accuse Omar of racism, but of making inflammatory remarks. I interpret her remark "all about the benjamins" to be about Jews, because when she was pressed for clarification, she mentioned AIPAC. She's doing the same thing Trump is doing, and I applaud her for doing that just as I applaud Trump for doing that. I don't think her remarks are particularly racist, but they are politically incorrect.
noemon wrote:Trump singled out these congresswomen based on their ethnicity.
You keep repeating that. Apparently, it is very upsetting for you. Has it occurred to you that not everyone else finds it upsetting?
noemon wrote:Omar did not single anyone out based on their ethnicity.
That's your interpretation. Her remark was directly in response to questions about her being antisemitic. Who do you think she was talking about other than Jewish Americans with Israeli citizenship? Rahm Emmanuel is one such person with dual citizenship, and he was offended by Omar's remarks. He was White House chief of staff and served in the Israeli Defense Forces. He's not the only one upset by Ilhan Omar's remarks either. I don't think it's a bad thing that he's upset either. I'm glad Omar is creating friction.Ilhan Omar ignites new anti-Semitism controversy with comments on AIPAC
Freshman Minnesota Democrat Ilhan Omar ignited a new controversy on Sunday night when she suggested GOP support for Israel is driven by campaign donations from a prominent pro-Israel group.
Omar singled out AIPAC, one of the most influential lobbying groups in Washington, as the source of those donations.
Omar's comments touched upon a long-running, and particularly ugly, thread of the anti-Semitic movement — that Jewish money fuels backing for Israel in the United States and elsewhere. A freshman Democrat, Max Rose of New York, said, "Congresswoman Omar's statements are deeply hurtful to Jews, including myself."
I grew up with "stick and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me." So I think today's snowflakes are humorously pathetic. I think people should be able to say whatever they like, provided they aren't inciting lawless behavior. Do you think that Max Rose is lying about his feelings and he's just trying to shut Omar up? Are you upset with him for what he's saying? I'm not. Nor am I upset with what Trump is saying.
Omar said on Twitter "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel."
Omar really doesn't seem to care for Israel--home to the Jewish people.
Omar and freshman Michigan Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib — the first two Muslim women elected to Congress — have signaled support for the Palestinian-led BDS movement (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) against the Israeli government over its treatment of Palestinians.
Omar and Tlaib support boycotting and divesting from Israel. That's creating enormous tension within the Democratic party.
In response to Greenwald's post, Omar tweeted, "It's all about the Benjamins baby," followed by a music emoji, which suggested that money was calling the tune for McCarthy.
When asked to explain where the money she was referring to came from, Omar tweeted: "AIPAC."
An Omar spokesman said the tweets "speak for themselves."
So Israel is a country with an ethnic and religious minority from the standpoint of the United States.
noemon wrote:That was not echoing, that was you articulating those arguments.
Well, if I don't do that, then I end up having to cite numerous people and get accused of posting a wall of text. Which would you prefer?
noemon wrote:You only care when the people you support are accused but are quick on the trigger when it comes to others.
Like all people, I have a prejudicial relationship to my own point of view.
Godstud wrote:More racist shit from Trump.
Trump didn't mention any races here. What part of Trump's comments do you find racist?
Many inner cities are dealing with significant homeless encampments, where rodents infestation is bringing the return of Medieval diseases like Typhus and the Bubonic plague. It's mostly happening in inner cities run by Democratic party politicians.
"This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science."
-- Joe Biden on banning travel from China during the coronavirus outbreak