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Palmyrene wrote: It's not possible to have a legitimate conversation about Israel if you keeo acting like this


I feel exactly the same with you guys.
Everything the Arabs do, from knifing civilians, killing children, and so on, it's all legitimate in your eyes because it is the resistance hurr hurr, International law hurrr hurr, concentration camp hurr hurr, genocide ! hurr hurr, massacres ! hurr hurr.

As for using children as shields by Israel, I have seen it once documented, an act by one or two soldiers, whilst hiding behind civilians is the main tactic of the Arabs. Yet you do not hesitate to bring it up often, way outside of proportion.

When are you zealots going to realise that Israel and Israelis are going nowhere, they are staying there, forever and ever, till the sun blows up and everybody dies. All the rest is wishful thinking.
#15027014
This isn't really news. It's a sad reality that the artifacts of war often last long after a conflict is over.

40,000 Vietnamese have been killed by American bombs since the Vietnamese War(American War, if you ask them) ended.
#15027035
Ter wrote:I feel exactly the same with you guys.
Everything the Arabs do, from knifing civilians, killing children, and so on, it's all legitimate in your eyes because it is the resistance hurr hurr, International law hurrr hurr, concentration camp hurr hurr, genocide ! hurr hurr, massacres ! hurr hurr.


It is. Context is everything. Pretending it isn't won't allow us to have a proper conversation.

As for using children as shields by Israel, I have seen it once documented, an act by one or two soldiers, whilst hiding behind civilians is the main tactic of the Arabs. Yet you do not hesitate to bring it up often, way outside of proportion.


The UN has investigated use of human shields in Palestinians and ended up finding out that Israel was the one who uses human shields while the use of human shields in Palestine remains unsubstantiated.

This is how pathetic and hilarious the government can be.

When are you zealots going to realise that Israel and Israelis are going nowhere, they are staying there, forever and ever, till the sun blows up and everybody dies. All the rest is wishful thinking.


Well while the Jews and everyone else in Israel is staying, Israel is not. As is the case for Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt, maybe even parts of Turkey if we're lucky.
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Palmyrene wrote:It is. Context is everything. Pretending it isn't won't allow us to have a proper conversation.

Repeating propaganda, half-truths and whole lies, that is not a proper conversation.

Palmyrene wrote:The UN has investigated use of human shields in Palestinians and ended up finding out that Israel was the one who uses human shields while the use of human shields in Palestine remains unsubstantiated.

The UN is terribly biased because of the block-voting by the 57 Muslim-majority states, with help from the non-aligned states. It has made the UN a laughing stock, totally worthless. The so-called investigators for human rights abuses in Israel were so terribly pro Arab biased, nobody except people like you give them any credibility.

You might know that the Arabs fire their rockets from civilian areas in Gaza and South Lebanon. If you do not call that human shields then what is? But you parrot the UN saying
that the use of human shields by the Arabs remains unsubstantiated
. Really ? Is that all you got ?

Palmyrene wrote:Well while the Jews and everyone else in Israel is staying, Israel is not.

It is a nice dream you are having there. Wishful thinking. It is never going to happen. If anyone seriously tries to vanquish Israel militarily, they will be in for a big, very big surprise.

I agree with you that you and I cannot discuss the Arab problem in a serious manner. You are totally biased, blinded by the lies and prejudices you were exposed to.
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Ter wrote:Repeating propaganda, half-truths and whole lies, that is not a proper conversation.


It isn't propaganda if Israel directly admits it. And furthermore, Israel actually has a propaganda wing which is called hasbara meanwhile Palestinians literally have nothing.

The UN is terribly biased because of the block-voting by the 57 Muslim-majority states, with help from the non-aligned states. It has made the UN a laughing stock, totally worthless. The so-called investigators for human rights abuses in Israel were so terribly pro Arab biased, nobody except people like you give them any credibility.


Amensty International is biased? Are you kidding?

Not only that but they investigated human shields in Palestinian territories as per Israel's request. Israel intentionally brough them there and they found out the opposite.

You might know that the Arabs fire their rockets from civilian areas in Gaza and South Lebanon. If you do not call that human shields then what is? But you parrot the UN saying. Really ? Is that all you got ?


Firing from a civilian area isn't using humam shields. Israel fires at civilian areas anyways and they fire from them too. Israel has low strategic depth which means that all of it's missiles and defense weaponry is very close to the key areas of interests which are urban areas and civilians.

It is a nice dream you are having there. Wishful thinking. It is never going to happen. If anyone seriously tries to vanquish Israel militarily, they will be in for a big, very big surprise.


Yeah? No. It's not wishful thinking. It's required. Eventually Israel is going to go to war with the anarchist society or invade due to their expansionist policy. It'll be them that'll underestimate us, not the other way around.

And Israel is very easy as long as you use the momentum from a successful counterattack. Like I said before, Israel has very low strategic depth, everything is close together.

I agree with you that you and I cannot discuss the Arab problem in a serious manner. You are totally biased, blinded by the lies and prejudices you were exposed to.


The Israeli government's official statements are anti-Israel propaganda?

You're in denial.
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It isn't propaganda if Israel directly admits it. And furthermore, Israel actually has a propaganda wing which is called hasbara meanwhile Palestinians literally have nothing.


They have many organizations working for their cause including BDS

Firing from a civilian area isn't using humam shields


Yes it is


Yeah? No. It's not wishful thinking. It's required. Eventually Israel is going to go to war with the anarchist society or invade due to their expansionist policy. It'll be them that'll underestimate us, not the other way around.

And Israel is very easy as long as you use the momentum from a successful counterattack. Like I said before, Israel has very low strategic depth, everything is close together.


There wont be any anarchist society so that discussion is irrelevant
#15027044
Zionist Nationalist wrote:They have many organizations working for their cause including BDS


BDS is a boycotting movement not a propaganda campaign and they mostly aren't run by Palestinians.

BDS is the only one.

Yes it is


No it isn't. You aren't using them as human shields you're firing from a civilian area.

There wont be any anarchist society so that discussion is irrelevant


:lol:

Don't be too sure ;)
#15027046
BDS is a boycotting movement not a propaganda campaign and they mostly aren't run by Palestinians.

BDS is the only one.



They have the socialists like corbyn who are supporting them and constantly spreading pro Arab propoganda

No it isn't. You aren't using them as human shields you're firing from a civilian area.


Yes it is because the army will always shoot back to destroy the launchers
#15027048
Zionist Nationalist wrote:They have the socialists like corbyn who are supporting them and constantly spreading pro Arab propoganda


That isn't a propaganda machine and Corbyn doesn't oppose the existence of Israel. Honestly, you people think saying Israel has bad toilet paper is "pro-Arab propaganda". It's not even pro-Arab it's pro-Palestinian.

Yes it is because the army will always shoot back to destroy the launchers


Then I wonder what you think about Israel's Iron Done strategy is basically just covering civilian areas with missile launchers.

You people cry about Palestinians shooting missiles from civilian areas at Israeli civilian areas and yet Israel's entire strategy is based around this exact idea.
#15027052
It's not even pro-Arab it's pro-Palestinian.


Its the same thing


Then I wonder what you think about Israel's Iron Done strategy is basically just covering civilian areas with missile launchers.


Iron dome is to protect Israeli civilians but it can be overwhelmed with alot of rockets


You people cry about Palestinians shooting missiles from civilian areas at Israeli civilian areas and yet Israel's entire strategy is based around this exact idea.


No. the army shoot back at launchers to destroy them because Israel cannot give them a free pass to shoot without any consequences

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