This is a very telling response by @Julian658:
A person that claims to be a conservative would never yell racism to try to win an argument. Your cover has been blown.
So you double down on the notion that being conservative these days is racist? I disagree. There is nothing conservative about racism though I freely admit that many of the Trump coalition are racist. Extremely. Sorta; like you
Yes, we humans are more advanced because we have a well developed frontal lobe to control the primitive drive of tribalism. HOwever, that does not change evolution. Like every SJW out there you are very weak in logic and science.
Nice try at an insult. And, of course, you are rejecting the science. But if you want to post some drivel about how people "evolved" to be racist you can. Here is an easy to read article that pretty much shows how your fringe "science" is simply wrong.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/ I said: What is not rocket science ought to be that your whole argument is nonsense. Lots of people were passed by who are male even though they were the "most qualified" as were many highly qualified women.
@Julian658 said: Fighting racism, sexism, or discrimination with racism, sexism, and discrimination is not the answer. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Thanks for admitting that you do not understand the argument. Let me just say two things about why this racist argument fails on the face of it.
First you have yet to show that efforts to achieve equal representation are a "wrong". You seem to ask us to simply admit it. I am happy to debate you on this subject. It should not take long at all.
Then you simply pronounce, without evidence, that attempts to fight racism are inherently racist. Presumably relying on your argument that political decisions ought to be completely merit based you call any attempt to do otherwise racist. I would like to see your evidence of the intention of any government anywhere to make this a political reality.
I said: Reason three. Trudeau ran on a party platform where he said he would make the cabinet more inclusive. And he got elected. The people who elected him should expect him to make good on this promise. So should you.
@Julian658 replied: SOcialism does not work. Racism of low expectation is on the long run evil.
Nice try at arguing "facts" not in evidence. Where is your evidence that "socialism does not work"? The "low expectations" thing is a racist talking point but again, you are assuming a fact not in evidence.
A form of racial discrimination where certain racial groups are offered benefits and assistance because of an implicit belief that they are less able.
I love this. So when a government requires that all elevators should have Braille floor numbers, you are saying that they are being "offered benefits and assistance because of an implicit belief that they are less able". They sure are. And you are when you get a scholarship based upon need.
I would tell you that the conservative way to look at assistance in (since you wish to make this about race rather than gender) achieving more equality in our culture is simply a good business decision. I would tell you that achieving racial and gender equality simply makes good business sense. Then, of course, I am a Christian so I believe in doing the right and kind thing in general. Few modern conservatives embrace this idea and the churches are filled with them.
I suspected you and Godstud are clones. I am all for equal opportunity.
Godstud and I are on opposite sides of the world.
And you are not for equal opportunity. You just posted beaucoup words showing us that.
But, to seek equal results is evil to the core.
Can you introduce some evidence that this is true. I would say two things about it:
First, if you are talking about achieving a society where someone can achieve based upon their own abilities and desires, you have to remove traditional and irrational barriers to doing it. Like the entrenched racial barriers in US society. Like the traditional discrimination of women in the marketplace.
Second, your argument that this is about "equal results" is just wrong. This is not about getting everyone to get an A in math. To attempt to devolve the argument to that is absurd and childish. Oh yea. And racist.
When I set out to teach a class at the University it should be my goal that every student get the information at the A level. That is seeking equal results. It should never be the goal of a teacher to look at his/her class as a competition. There is no desire to crown a winner. It should be to impart the information to each student knowing that some will get more than others. But the goal should still be that they all get "it". That is the conservative way.
Why do you think MAO ordered men and women to dress the same way? He was looking for an equality that does not exist. There is no way you are a conservative dude.
I was a soldier for 20 years. We dressed the same way everyday. ( But then the military is the very definition of a socialist society using your definition of socialism.)
There is the N word and then there is the M word. SJWs like you fear the M word. You are a racist of low expectations.
What is the "M" word you seem to expect me to fear. I have no idea what you are talking about. Your attempt at a final zinger fails though. You have yet to point to a single thing that I said which supports I have "low expectations" of a single person. If you want to argue about whether, in the face of traditional gender and racial discrimination going back generations, it is wrong for me to have lowered expectations of their groups I would tell you to bring it on. The problem with your argument is that you want to argue generalities on moment and specifics another. Do blacks and women face baked in
societal impairments to success in the US and Canada? Of course they do. Is it right to try to tear these down? IMO yes. Does that make me a "liberal" or "socialist"? Only to people who do not understand what either term means.