Rich wrote:That's what I'm saying, delay the election for any electoral reforms. Waiting to get Brexit done does not seem a legitimate reason, but waiting for electoral reform is totally the right thing to do. In fact I would suggest that the first Thursday in May would be a good date to go for and then the election could be held on that date every two years. With election campaigns reduced to no longer than a week. This could mean every 16/17 year old could be guaranteed to get the chance to vote once before they were 18. As well as helping to create an engaged citizenry, this might do something to stop the whole university, student loan, finance pyramid scheme, that is seriously exacerbating inequality in this country.
Of course that might not appeal to many Brexocrites who are desperate to see cuts in Capital gains / corporation, inheritance and mansion taxes, so more of the tax burden can be pushed on to lower / middle class people. This is why its wrong to see Brexocrites as selfish nationalists, if they are successful it could also mean significant gains for the super rich of Europe as the race to the bottom on rich peoples taxes picks up pace. Brexocrites care deeply about the super rich of all nations regardless of race, sex, sexual preference or creed.
'Waiting' for 'electoral reforms', as much as they are needed to avoid a repetition of the current situation in parliament, as worthy as it is, is not the right approach Rich.
The referendum,in conjunction with political 'mishaps' by Theresa MAY, along with previous legislative policies, that have contributed to the situation, the Fixed Term Parliament Act, being one that you mention,which CAMERON brought in.
Unfortunately for the Tories(perhaps luckily for Labour), the Tory policy of Boundary Changes reform, failed to materialise, which, again, helps Labour & that policy was supposed to reinforce the FTPA as a way of eliminating popular democratic 'anomalies' at election time.
As for '16-17 year olds' in respect of elections, although I agree that democracy should there for all as a way of demonstrating their will,apart from the policy anomalies above, there is an accepted principle of, 'no taxation, without representaion', which, in the case of 16-17 year olds,should apply as, 'no representation, without taxation'.
Now, having said that, everybody that is in posession of one or both of the following, a Tax Reference Number,along with a National Insurance Number, is subject to taxation or entitlement receive state benefits once any income in excess of the Personal Allowance is achieved or not, as the case may be.
From that point of view, there should be no reason why theu should not be allowed to vote.
That presentation though,in effect, applies to few in the age up to 17 years, which rather negates the legitimacy of the demand that they should have the vote & is just an unfortunate reality.
I can't accept what you say on Brexiteers expecting reduced taxes of various sorts, or any of the other things Rich, that's because they are not related to Brexit, rather, they are the effects of Fiscal Policy post-war (1945),by both main political parties,also with the Lib Dems under the 'Coalition', but, I do concur with your sentiment on such things.
In fact, Labour agreed with CAMERON's government, on the need for 'austerity', indeeed, Gordon BROWN's government,with Alistair DARLING,as Chancellor, waged their own war of attrition against benefit dependents, not unreasonably at that time, although, those efforts were undermined completely by unmitigated migration into the country under their watch & ever since.