@Sivad , are you saying that it is basic human intuition that we re able to cross freely into wherever we want to go? I've never really felt that way. I think we are not that much unlike pack animals, right; we have a natural concept of territory and delineations between one another. We are in competition over the same resources after all.
Pants-of-dog wrote:The founding fathers allowed non-citizens to enter the country without any problem, and even gave them voting rights.
Since you support what the founding fathers did, can we assume you are in full support of those policies?
The United States allowed for non-citizens to become citizens without a problem if they met certain criteria.
Even the famous Constitutionalist scholar and abolitionist St. George Tucker spoke as a matter of fact that blacks, mulattoes, and Indians could never be citizens nor could they ever expect the right to vote, and suggested that they be highly regulated, not permitted to bear arms (as well), and that they should be encouraged to immigrate to other climes.
Are you suggesting that I embrace such a perspective?
Your idea of natural law is based entirely on US culture, it seems. @Sivad is probably referring to an objective moral code instead.
My concept of natural law is... limited. I believe that there are human rights that are granted by God -- for instance, the right to life, and the right to not be tortured or mutilated, the right to a fair trial, the right to one's own property, the right to be free from attempts on the sexual chastity of oneself and of one's spouse and family, the right to freedom of one's conscience, and, I think, but am not sure to what extent, the right to free speech, self-defense, and to what extent property can be accumulated.
I try to base this only on Biblical knowledge and the knowledge I glean from Saints.
Do you think indigenous approaches to land ownership are like this racist caricature that you presented?
You must not have been following the conversation.
What I stated was meant to make a mockery of Sivad's position on the right to wander wherever.
I am no expert on how native Americans regulated these things, and it would seem doubtful t hat many people can truly know for sure since they provided no written records in north America that go back far.
I would assume that they functioned like other tribes, and that "no one owns the land" and "wander about freely" would be just as alien to them as to the Europeans. They are a collection of ideas that Communists came up with later.