- 14 Nov 2019 16:53
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Wrong. All we need is evidence that Joe Biden knew that Hunter Biden and Devin Archer were lobbying for a result at the State Department. We already know that Joe Biden's staff were warned. We already know that the New York Times tipped Joe Biden off. So there is more than enough evidence for investigation into both of them.
Ok. Then cite a clause in the constitution that you think the president violated. Why is this so hard for you guys?
Wait, I thought this was about the constitution. Can you make up your mind?
Okay, so enumerate the offenses. You are asserting a fact with no enumeration, no bill of particulars, no express act, etc. It would be nice if you guys would get specific. "We really don't like Trump" is well established, but that is a political matter handled by elections.
All we have so far is two people who think they are very important who have never communicated with the president in any way who think Ukraine is vital to the United States; and, in spite of Obama never delivering any military aid and indirectly delivering civilian aid while Russia annexed Crimea and ostensibly occupied the Donbas are very upset that Trump slowed down a military aid package for a few weeks--which has been delivered and Ukraine is no worse for the wear; and, heard from a colleague, who heard from a colleague, who heard from a colleague that Trump wanted Ukraine to announce investigations into Clinton and Biden; and, neither of them could identify an impeachable offense. It was a Schiff Show...as puzzlingly pointless as the Mueller hearing.
No president in US history has been removed from office via impeachment. Of the two impeached--Johnson and Clinton--Johnson's was the most serious in terms of closeness to removal, and Clinton's was the most serious in terms of the sheer number of proven violations of the law. Neither was removed from office. With Trump, we have basically a taxpayer funded anti-Trump campaign infomercial that cannot even clearly articulate a violation of any law. It's pathetic, but not quite as pathetic as the Democratic primary candidates who have now seen Deval Patrick and Michael Bloomberg jumping into the race with rumors that Hillary Clinton may jump in as well. The Democrats are in complete disarray.
late wrote:1) That doesn't support your argument. What you need is evidence about Joe, not Hunter.
Wrong. All we need is evidence that Joe Biden knew that Hunter Biden and Devin Archer were lobbying for a result at the State Department. We already know that Joe Biden's staff were warned. We already know that the New York Times tipped Joe Biden off. So there is more than enough evidence for investigation into both of them.
late wrote:2) Again, this is about the Constitution.
Ok. Then cite a clause in the constitution that you think the president violated. Why is this so hard for you guys?
late wrote:3) It is if Congress says it is.
Wait, I thought this was about the constitution. Can you make up your mind?
late wrote:4) But he does have an obligation to fulfill his oath of office, and that he has failed repeatedly to do.
Okay, so enumerate the offenses. You are asserting a fact with no enumeration, no bill of particulars, no express act, etc. It would be nice if you guys would get specific. "We really don't like Trump" is well established, but that is a political matter handled by elections.
late wrote:5) Enjoy that fantasy.
All we have so far is two people who think they are very important who have never communicated with the president in any way who think Ukraine is vital to the United States; and, in spite of Obama never delivering any military aid and indirectly delivering civilian aid while Russia annexed Crimea and ostensibly occupied the Donbas are very upset that Trump slowed down a military aid package for a few weeks--which has been delivered and Ukraine is no worse for the wear; and, heard from a colleague, who heard from a colleague, who heard from a colleague that Trump wanted Ukraine to announce investigations into Clinton and Biden; and, neither of them could identify an impeachable offense. It was a Schiff Show...as puzzlingly pointless as the Mueller hearing.
late wrote:What constitutes impeachable conduct is what Congress says it impeachable. Learn your history.
No president in US history has been removed from office via impeachment. Of the two impeached--Johnson and Clinton--Johnson's was the most serious in terms of closeness to removal, and Clinton's was the most serious in terms of the sheer number of proven violations of the law. Neither was removed from office. With Trump, we have basically a taxpayer funded anti-Trump campaign infomercial that cannot even clearly articulate a violation of any law. It's pathetic, but not quite as pathetic as the Democratic primary candidates who have now seen Deval Patrick and Michael Bloomberg jumping into the race with rumors that Hillary Clinton may jump in as well. The Democrats are in complete disarray.
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