skinster wrote:You mean the extradition law for people indulging in things like corruption, rape, murder etc. that isn't a thing anymore?
Indulging in things that bother the Chinese dictatorship.
Your opinion is nice and all but there is evidence of NED/CIA involvement in the protests, which I've posted in the thread on this topic. You ignoring it doesn't stop it from being reality. Not sure what you're trying to say here but if this is your only response to me pointing out the protesters are more violent than the cops and have more blood on their hands, OK.
What I am trying to say is that you are wrong, we both know you are wrong and that is why in your previous message you are trying to accuse me of defending "right-wing thugs" without of course me doing anything of the sort. You are incredibly wrong, you are aware of it and because you are aware of it instead of conversation you are trying to fling mud at all directions even at people that are historically positive towards you. The CIA nonsense you repeat like a broken record as if they have any effect on anyone other than yourself have not been ignored in the other thread, they have been addressed. But I guess since you have no actual argument, you will be repeating the catchphrase like there is no tomorrow. You have chosen your side which is anything that can be anti-western and that blinds you to the actual reality of the very real and very basic facts:
skinster wrote:Once HK is fully under China's rule, things will be better for the people of HK, I'm sure.
You sound like an Israeli apologist claiming that once Israel officially annexes the West Bank and Gaza things will be better for the people of these territories. When in fact what you should be saying is: "Let the people of .......... decide what they want to be".
If your argument is that the CIA has bought off over a million Hong Kong protesters who have average salaries higher than the average salaries of CIA employees and that all these rich people from Hong Kong wake up every day and follow instructions of their CIA handlers who happen to be poorer than them, then you should explain why this kind of magical CIA organisation has not managed to convince a similar number of very poor Palestinians to do its bidding. That is not to say that the CIA has no involvement as I have previously said she most likely does but the CIA has been involved in every major incident in the planet since at least World War 2. Your placard is a truism akin to the fact that the sky is blue. The presence of the CIA(if any) and the US's very minimal token support does not delegitimise the protesters or their cause. Besides the Chinese "CIA" is understood to be far more reaching and powerful in that part of the world. Just because the US has decided to offer very minimal token support to the people of Hong Kong it does not mean that their cause is tainted by the American "evil" nor does it mean that wherever the Americans decide to interfere which is everywhere
that automatically places the side that receives American support as the "bad guys". You have the capability to understand that this logic does not actually stand. Just like the American logic that whoever the Russians support is evil by default also does not stand. Some of us call them all(US, China, Russia) as we see fit according to the occasion instead of playing stooges for the superpower of choice. Surely you can appreciate the importance of this.
EN EL ED EM ON
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