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jimjam wrote:did I mention the "H" word? i'm not busting your balls ….. I seriously do not remember this. Please help my declining brain and show me where I did this :?:

jimjam wrote:Absolutely!! I LOVE abuse of power. Hitler was way misunderstood. He was just a cool dude doing his thing.
#15054355
blackjack21 wrote:
Absolutely!! I LOVE abuse of power. Hitler was way misunderstood. He was just a cool dude doing his thing.”


Thanks, I was wondering. I didn't compare Donald directly to Hitler. I simply pointed out the obvious that they both abused power. Safe to say that many many others abuse(d) power …… Obama, General Patton, on and on. I simply used a method I frequently use …… an extreme example to make a point. Donald may be a crook and head of a crime family but i'm not sure anybody in history is on Hitler's level.
#15054376
SpecialOlympian wrote:I didn't read your post and nobody cares what you have to say.

You obviously care, because you decided to participate in a thread I authored. You are just upset, because you jump in calling Trump supporters CHUD, boomers (most are gen-x), making unfounded allegations of raping children, deriding the intelligence of Trump supporters, asserting that Trump supporters see him as some sort of patriarchal figure, etc. For example:

SpecialOlympian wrote:Trump voters are by and large racist morons.

Your behavior makes it fun to point out that you think police are running around murdering people when they are merely defending themselves.

SpecialOlympian wrote:Lets add fragile to the list too

Maybe you ought to reflect on that yourself a little more. You find white genocide humorous. Why do you think it's weird that I can easily trigger you so that you call police officers murderers when they are defending themselves? It's funny.

SpecialOlympian wrote:Listen chud, or deplorable, or gullible rube, or whatever it is you prefer to be called as a Trump voter

This is how you talk to people. So you can imagine how much fun I derive from triggering you. It's not only Finfinder. You blasted BigSteve here too:

SpecialOlympian wrote:You're a Trump supporter and you've said multiple times you don't give a shit if immigrants die or their children are separated from their families or any other number of horrible things that happen to disadvantaged people who are, by and large, nonwhite.


SpecialOlympian wrote:But for real you chud rightwingers are hilarious.


SpecialOlympian wrote:Whenever he thinks of me he thinks of murder, and posts pictures of black people being murdered at me for some ~mysterious reason~.

I also think of "white genocide," which is as you might assert "totally normal and not weird at all." I can see how you think that's funny. Yet, you can't see how it's funny how your are so triggered when the police have to engage self defense, usually while being controlled by local Democratic Party politicians.

late wrote:AI is not yet AI.

Negating your subject with an identical object is a weird way to write a sentence. Why don't you elaborate on what you mean?

late wrote:It does, however, provide a result heavily influenced by what the programmers put into it.

Maybe expert systems and Bayesian classification resulting in decision trees, but what about backpropagating neural networks, genetic algorithms, etc.?

late wrote:It did not, however, repair all the damage. Far from it, in one city, public transportation is routed around the Black area. They get one bus. Thousand of people needing work, and one damn bus.

Let me guess: the city is run by Democrats and has been for roughly 50 years, and nobody thinks it's time to vote for a different political party, right?

late wrote:You were talking about police violence. Holder was pushing police departments to clean up.

Yes, and one of the results is police wearing body cameras. A result of body cameras is that police have an affirmative defense. Also, the quality of police reports improves, because there is a recording of police/witness interaction. It doesn't rely on faulty human memory. So now we get people claiming the police are out murdering people, as I have just illustrated with SpecialOlympian, and it becomes clear to the population at large that people like SpecialOlympian are making charges that are demonstrably false.

late wrote:Wanna guess how long it took Trump to stop it?

He just got the federal government out of regulating local police departments. That's a job for local voters, and if they like the Democrats that much, then maybe they should stop complaining so much about how the government is treating them.

So getting back to the topic at hand, impeachment is failing so badly that apparently a Democrat is leaving the party to become a Republican.
Anti-impeachment Democrat plans to become a Republican, source says
I'm guessing this isn't what Nancy Pelosi had in mind...
#15054440
blackjack21 wrote:
Negating your subject with an identical object is a weird way to write a sentence. Why don't you elaborate on what you mean?




"Even well-designed AI systems can still end up with a bias.

This bias can cause the AI to exhibit racism, sexism, or other types of discrimination. Entirely by accident.

In this article, I’m going to explain how racial biases can appear in AI. I will also discuss some ways to deal with this problem on a technical level."
https://towardsdatascience.com/why-your-ai-might-be-racist-and-what-to-do-about-it-c081288f600a

I might talk about your other mistakes later.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:Why the fuck do we have a forum that is moderated so poorly that people like blackjack21 feel free to post black murderporn at people they disagree with? As if posting videos of black people dying will "own" another poster?

That is extremely fucked up and wrong. It is fucking terrible that the mod staff think this behavior is fine, and that we have to dance around the obvious, incredibly obvious, racism of our dumbest posters and pretend they have opinions worth discussing.

Looking at you, KS. You're doing a great job. A fucking fantastic job. Thank you for your efforts and contributions to this forum, where we post videos of black people being shot "for fun."


My Honourable Friend is right that some of the videos shared by that Member do not make people agree with him. For many cases, it would have been better for the police to aim at non-lethal parts like the legs (not the joints). Although it is another story if a vehicle is involved (as seen in the second video of #15054282).

To be fair, though, the Member who My Honourable Friend accuses actually had explanations when he shared the videos, or at least he had made a point in discussion in the very same post. This is in stark contrast with a certain Member who often post Tweets without explaining his motives, which, under My Honourable Friend's definition, is unacceptable Palestine / Chinese murder porn posting. As a matter of fact, such Palestine / Chinese murder-porn usually goes unpunished.

Therefore, I doubt whether the "black murder porn" (as defined by My Honourable Friend) which is accompanied with related opinion (however disagreeable it is) would face the sack.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:Also, obviously KaiserScharm is the mod who has a problem with me pointing out that people post black murderporn at me, which is completely off topic to a discussion on the impeachment process.

You, late and jimjam brought racism into the discussion, not me. I used an example where you accuse police officers of racism to illustrate that your claims of other people being racist are not credible. I even used a recent example in your venue where you vote for the local government that runs the police. Generally, YouTube wouldn't like such videos either if they considered them "murder porn" as you put it, but since it was part of an effort by the Obama administration to show what the police are doing, it has political clearance from YouTube as they are tax-payer funded videos. As I've stated repeatedly, what the videos often show is that people like you make claims of "murder" and "racism" which are not supported by the evidence. That wasn't Obama's intention, but it is one of the relevant results. We also get to convict some dirty cops once in awhile.

SpecialOlympian wrote:Thanks for being extremely cool and down with Beej posting black people being murdered at me.

They aren't being murdered.

SpecialOlympian wrote:Why the fuck do we have a forum that is moderated so poorly that people like blackjack21 feel free to post black murderporn at people they disagree with? As if posting videos of black people dying will "own" another poster?

Triggered much? Again, you decided to come into a thread I authored (while claiming you don't care what I have to say) and call everyone supporting Trump a racist, stupid, etc. I'm simply pointing out that your idea of "racist" is way outside the norms of the mainstream of American society. Being black doesn't give you the right to hijack people's cars with a machete or charge at police officers with a machete. Calling police officers racists or murders in such circumstances shows your complete lack of fairness and your bad faith in making political arguments. So I'm simply doing a "lift and shift" of your reactions to a video like that so that the people you've called racist here can see that you have no solid foundation for your collateral attacks on people's character.

SpecialOlympian wrote:That is extremely fucked up and wrong.

Explain why you think it is wrong. Barack Obama himself put forward this initiative to have police officers wear body cameras, because of people like you constantly accusing the police of excessive use of force and racism. I am pointing out that people like you are making unfounded accusations using the very taxpayer-funded videos that Barack Obama himself demanded. So explain how that is wrong. This is something your political faction asked for from 2014-2016 in the last two years of Obama's administration.

SpecialOlympian wrote:It is fucking terrible that the mod staff think this behavior is fine, and that we have to dance around the obvious, incredibly obvious, racism of our dumbest posters and pretend they have opinions worth discussing.

What racism? I'm pointing out that you make unfounded charges against people, which you've done to plenty of people. My thread is about the Democrats putting forward the lamest most inchoate articles of impeachment of a US president in American history and you describe those of us who agree with that assertion as "racist," and that being our motivation for supporting Trump--the reason for his impeachment having virtually nothing to do with racism.

SpecialOlympian wrote:Thank you for your efforts and contributions to this forum, where we post videos of black people being shot "for fun."

They aren't being shot for fun. Police are defending themselves from violent perpetrators, and for some reason you are totally triggered by this. I don't think the police having to shoot someone is "fun." I do get a little amusement out of you calling the police racist, and accusing them of murder when they are clearly defending themselves and the public in general from violent people.

late wrote:Even well-designed AI systems can still end up with a bias.

Yes, but you are making the assertion that it's the design of the system, and not conclusions of the system based on the data itself.

late wrote:In this article, I’m going to explain how racial biases can appear in AI. I will also discuss some ways to deal with this problem on a technical level."
https://towardsdatascience.com/why-your ... 81288f600a

I already posted several articles on this. What some are now doing however is training AI to ignore indicators too. Again, we're getting way off topic. I've started threads on this topic before, but it doesn't seem to interest many people. I'd be happy to debate it with you further.

SpecialOlympian wrote:A video of a black person being shot has nothing to do with the impeachment hearings and, frankly, none of us need to know what blackjack jerks off to.

Once again, it was you, late and jimjam that brought racism and Hitler, etc. into the discussion--none of which has anything to do with whether Trump is within his authority to investigate Joe Biden's conflict of interest, quid pro quo, and possible violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act while Biden is running for president. The Democrats seem to be arguing that running for president is a get-out-of-jail-free card, kind of like you arguing that you should somehow be able to use a machete to hijack cars or attack police officers with impunity, provided your are black. Your charges of racism are lame, unfounded, and totally off-topic. However, I confess only to a bit of schadenfreude at triggering you, because I do find it very entertaining.
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@blackjack21

With all due respect, if My Honourable Friend wants to find some "police defending themselves from violent people" information, he might as well consider referring tweets about the so-called violence of Hong Kong protesters and the response of the police force there.

The advantage of such referral is that, both protesters and police in Hong Kong are essentially the same race. By referring them instead of African American people vs Caucasian American Police officers, that would help to alleviate the racial concerns of the Honourable Lady who accused My Honourable Friend.
#15054553
Literally blackjack: "I think of black people dying whenever I think of SpecialOlympian."

Totally normal and cool, not at all deranged. Blackjack is extremely normal, and not racist.n I am not worried at all that blackjack will ever commit a public shooting, because he is so normal.
#15054554
blackjack21 wrote:The Democrats seem to be arguing that running for president is a get-out-of-jail-free card ...


To be fair, many Republicans, as well as many of Trump's fans, including My Honourable Friend, seem to think that being president (or being President Trump) is a get-out-of-jail-free card.

If anything, it is probably a good idea if we can put both Trump and Biden on trial in front of an independent, non-partisan court.
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blackjack21 wrote:]

Yes, but you are making the assertion that it's the design of the system, and not conclusions of the system based on the data itself.




Look at the article, that's not what it is saying.

Here's a hint: you are seeing what you want to see.
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Just a reminder of this extremely normal blackjack quote:

blackjack21 wrote:Every time I think of you, I think of cops having to kill black people


Blackjack gives off extremely normal energy vibes. He is a powerful source of them. I definitely read blackjack posts and think, "Wow, this is a normal person who is not angry or prone to violence."
#15054622
blackjack23 wrote:I used an example...


Your excuses are lamer & cheaper than the racism of your posts, the doubling down with insults is just wonderful.

SpecialOlympian wrote:A video of a black person being shot has nothing to do with the impeachment hearings and, frankly, none of us need to know what blackjack jerks off to.


Indeed.
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blackjack21 wrote:jimjam brought racism into the discussion


BULLSHIT …………… you are getting positively weird. I have my personal forum rules...…. you have been placed on "ignore" along with your BFF Big Steverenio (B.S. :lol: ) . A shame because there are times when you are quite insightful and interesting but other times when you seem to be in desperate need of medication.
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jimjam wrote:you have been placed on "ignore" along with your BFF Big Steverenio (B.S. :lol: ) .

So why don't you guys leave the thread? I'm trying to talk about the lameness of the articles of impeachment, and the lameness of impeachment generally.

Apparently, it is not going well. Van Drew has decided to become a Republican, and there are rumors that another Democrat is going to defect to the Republican party. They are defecting from the majority party in the House to the minority party in the House--which tells you the handwriting is on the wall for 2020.

Jeff Van Drew's party switch is a godsend for Donald Trump<--From CNN.

Elissa Slotkin decided to vote for impeachment. She has constantly brought up that she was once a CIA officer as though that were somehow a plus in a CIA coup against the president. Her constituents apparently do not agree with her. At Raucous Town Hall, House Democrat Endorses Impeachment -- And Bets On Civility
Apparently that didn't go over well.

Adam Schiff got an earful as well. "You Should Go To Fuc*in' Jail": Chaos Ensues As Schiff Accused Of 'Treason' At California Event It's hilarious. Schiff says that there is bipartisan support and the crowd starts calling him a liar.



I'm on the fence as to whether they should go for a quick resolution or make an affirmative case that Trump made the right decision to look into Biden given Biden's comments to the Council on Foreign Relations and Hunter Biden's well paid lobbying for Burisma. I kind of lean toward the latter, because I think the Democrats and deep state have to be fought and beaten. I don't think clean simple wins are enough. Although, I think 2020 is going to look a lot like last week's election in the UK where even Tony Blair's seat went Tory.

Support for Impeachment Dips ahead of House Vote

Another interesting development is that Jerry Nadler's report is like a Bill of Attainder, accusing Trump of all sorts of crimes that aren't in the articles of impeachment at all and weren't even mentioned in any of the hearings, for which there is no evidence or witnesses, and for which there will be no trial--yet it is meant to have an influence. The dirtiness of these people is boundless, and I enjoy every minute of making the entire thing a fiasco for them.
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