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#15058531
snapdragon wrote:Unison backing Keir Starmer!

Whoop whoop!


Some of the Labour MPs went to their electorate who were worried/displeased with Corbyn who should be the next Leader, like 99% answer Keir Starmer hence he got the Unison support apparently. :)

Oh and fuck Long Bailey, she said Corbyn is 10 out of 10. What kind of deranged world does she live in. :|
#15058539
JohnRawls wrote:Some of the Labour MPs went to their electorate who were worried/displeased with Corbyn who should be the next Leader, like 99% answer Keir Starmer hence he got the Unison support apparently. :)


They finally got the message.

Oh and fuck Long Bailey, she said Corbyn is 10 out of 10. What kind of deranged world does she live in. :|


same one as skinster, John. I just don't get it.

Mind, it could still all come crashing down, but it's looking good for Labour.
#15058940
It amazes me that Boris Johnson is still tolerating SNP's idiotic demands. He is like a saint.

If this was in continental Europe, the respond will be like Spain's to Catalans. Scottish politicians would be jailed.
#15058955
Istanbuller wrote:It amazes me that Boris Johnson is still tolerating SNP's idiotic demands. He is like a saint.

If this was in continental Europe, the respond will be like Spain's to Catalans. Scottish politicians would be jailed.



The reason is simple. England is superior in almost every aspect. They do not have to fear like Spain or China.
#15059025
Patrickov wrote:The reason is simple. England is superior in almost every aspect. They do not have to fear like Spain or China.

Yes. It is so amazing that a country with a glorious imperial past can be this much transparent.

But I still don't like idea of independent Scotland. Britain is better as one country.
#15060015
skinster wrote:Looks like the membership is leaning towards Long-Bailey with Richard Burgon as deputy leader.




"Leaning" is not the right word. More like the members were guided to their choice.
#15060107
skinster wrote:By who?


Didn't you read your own news. A lot of people in momentum weren't happy that basically momentum didn't do an impartial vote on top of not giving much options. Basically they said support Long Bailey and her deputy and then put a vote to a choice of "Should we support long Bailey or not?". Other candidates were not represented.

Polls showed that Keir Starmer was couple of points behind Long Bailey in momentum so if standard Labour Rules were followed for momentum of excluding candidates every round then Starmer would win something like 60 to 40% even within Momentum itself because he is basically the 2nd choice candidate for most people if he isn't first.

Although the group has portrayed itself as a democratic organisation, set up to give the grassroots more influence on party decisions, it did not give its 40,000 membership the option of voting for which of the five candidates they wanted to support.

Instead the group presented members with the binary option of whether or not to endorse Ms Long Bailey for the leadership and Angela Rayner for deputy leader, after the pair were backed by the group’s national coordinating group.

#15060118
The betrayal of Jeremy Corbyn by the Jews will go down as a dark day in British socialist history.
#15060121
Donna wrote:The betrayal of Jeremy Corbyn by the Jews will go down as a dark day in British socialist history.

Would you have wanted the Jews to chose a leader who proclaimed that Hamas and Hezbollah are "his friends" and who placed wreaths on the graves of terrorists who murdered Israeli athletes in Munich in 1972 ?
Not to mention the rampant anti-Semitism within the labour party. Corbyn is neither a racist nor an anti-Semite but his reluctance to act forcefully against the bigots within his own party demonstrated his lack of leadership capabilities.
#15060124
Ter wrote:Would you have wanted the Jews to chose a leader who proclaimed that Hamas and Hezbollah are "his friends" and who placed wreaths on the graves of terrorists who murdered Israeli athletes in Munich in 1972 ?
Not to mention the rampant anti-Semitism within the labour party. Corbyn is neither a racist nor an anti-Semite but his reluctance to act forcefully against the bigots within his own party demonstrated his lack of leadership capabilities.


It's completely disproportionate and unacceptable that the British Jewish establishment held the entire progressive movement hostage and handed the Tories another government. If Muslim anti-Semitism is that much of a problem in Britain, then maybe the correct way forward is to take a page out of Canada's book and promote a project of reconciliation between Muslims and Jews. It sure beats a misuse of resources to orchestrate an attack on the entire progressive tent.
#15060127
Donna wrote:It's completely disproportionate and unacceptable that the British Jewish establishment held the entire progressive movement hostage and handed the Tories another government. If Muslim anti-Semitism is that much of a problem in Britain, then maybe the correct way forward is to take a page out of Canada's book and promote a project of reconciliation between Muslims and Jews. It sure beats a misuse of resources to orchestrate an attack on the entire progressive tent.


Now you make it appear as if the catastrophic loss and humiliation of Labour is mainly or even entirely due to the Jewish vote.
Reality check : the elections were determined for 90% by BREXIT.
The Tories were 100% Leave and Labour was wishy washy 50% Remain and 50% Leave.
LDP stole some of the remain votes from Labour whilst Farage sacrificed his own party to make BREXIT a reality.
You do the math.
#15060138
Donna wrote:It's completely disproportionate and unacceptable that the British Jewish establishment held the entire progressive movement hostage and handed the Tories another government. If Muslim anti-Semitism is that much of a problem in Britain, then maybe the correct way forward is to take a page out of Canada's book and promote a project of reconciliation between Muslims and Jews. It sure beats a misuse of resources to orchestrate an attack on the entire progressive tent.

You only forgot to mention the traitor centrists within Labour and establishment propaganda. Otherwise all clichés of why Labour lost are checked. Ever consider that Corbyn might be a shit leader, progressivism is not as popular as it looks or that harassing people that you don't agree with is not a winning strategy etc ?
#15060157
JohnRawls wrote:You only forgot to mention the traitor centrists within Labour and establishment propaganda. Otherwise all clichés of why Labour lost are checked. Ever consider that Corbyn might be a shit leader, progressivism is not as popular as it looks or that harassing people that you don't agree with is not a winning strategy etc ?


Sounds like you have an inner monologue going there, pal
#15060158
Ter wrote:Now you make it appear as if the catastrophic loss and humiliation of Labour is mainly or even entirely due to the Jewish vote.
Reality check : the elections were determined for 90% by BREXIT.
The Tories were 100% Leave and Labour was wishy washy 50% Remain and 50% Leave.
LDP stole some of the remain votes from Labour whilst Farage sacrificed his own party to make BREXIT a reality.
You do the math.


Even if that is the case, it doesn't change the fact of the betrayal that occurred.
#15060159
Donna wrote:Even if that is the case, it doesn't change the fact of the betrayal that occurred.

When did the Jews take an oath or promise otherwise to vote Labour ?
Because that is understood when you talk about betrayal.
What is your interest in this UK election anyway ?
Why are you upset ?
Where were you before you were born ?
Eh ?
#15060161
Ter wrote:When did the Jews take an oath or promise otherwise to vote Labour ?
Because that is understood when you talk about betrayal.
What is your interest in this UK election anyway ?
Why are you upset ?
Where were you before you were born ?
Eh ?


It is imperative for Jews to support the progressive movement. In my opinion, anyway.
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