noemon wrote:You said that you will support might makes right as long as no country is free as per your ideal.
I certainly didn't say that or suggest it.
I said that Greece (and Canada) have been playing games with the truth (in order to get money) for my entire lifetime. I am only scaldingly aware of how horrible this is now, in my senior years because of increased knowledge of social issues and, in particular, the dead docility of suburban non-citizens.
That Greece (the country) supported Gaddafi and helped train him, is a great thing, in my mind. But there has nonetheless been great mendacity from official information sources all over the West. And the controlling classes of Greece have been onboard with this, and very influential - just like in all capitalist countries during late Modernity.
Patrickov wrote:...people living in a nation all have their own thoughts and their own "sovereignty", which can be quite distinct from the so-called "sovereignty" as claimed to represent the whole people, but in practice only protects the ruling class.
So Libya's independence ONLY protected the upper classes there, in your opinion, while the vassalhood of places like Colombia guarantee best-possible-outcomes for the average person?
This seems the opposite of the truth, to me. The loss of First Nations sovereignty in North America, for example, lead to decline, misery, and many other awful life conditions on both a personal and social level.
You will have to provide an example of where loss of sovereignty benefited the average person. (Ireland? Kuwait? Afghanistan? Haiti?)
"A parasitic class of well-poisoners will save us!" - False Consciousness