annatar1914 wrote:@Potemkin , @Zionist Nationalist and others;
Speaking of ''getting it'', I know that some people may not understand why I've come to this point, but I am basically a Zionist when it comes to having a homeland for the Jewish Nation. Now for many this would seem uncontroversial, but for many years I was Anti-Zionist in reaction to the numerous Evangelical Dispensationalist Protestants who i've known my entire life, who are simply monstrous and ignorant dolts, heretics, and no true friends to the Nation-State of Israel at all. No better than the Fascists who oppose the Jewish people's existence in the Middle East and elsewhere, their very existence.
I didn't come by this decision of political philosophy easily, but I have come to believe as a man of moral principle that it is the only right decision I can make. I remain a theological opponent of the Jewish religion as constituted, and desire their conversion to Orthodox Christianity as with all Humanity, but stand with the Jewish Nation and it's right to exist as appears to be the will of God. And not only to exist but have it's historically proper frontiers from the Jordan to the Sea, from the Lebanon Mountains to the river of Egypt. They return in unbelief, but not in unbelief forever.
The rest is details. I worship the King of the Jews, how can I despise His Cousins, even if they might ignorantly despise Him themselves? How can I slap the face of His Mother, figuratively speaking, with my words and actions by mockery and hatred of the other children of the Holy Ancestors of Christ? Or if I have not really done that, how can I support those who have?
I stand with all the victims of Fascist oppression;
As does He.
For @Potemkin and @Zionist_Nationalist;
Part Two of my earlier commentary on being a supporter of the existence of the State of Israel, possible Part Three coming later;
If I were dealing more now with material power concepts, socialism, the working out of progressive forces in history, I could look no further than the creation of the State of Israel, and the Soviet Union under Stalin's immediate recognition of the Jewish Nation-State. Stalin knew.
The Israeli Nation's existence puts humanity in a number of camps in dialectical response;
1. Those who recognized Israel's geopolitical importance and worked hard to turn Israel into a colony of the West that would help secure the oil and shipping lanes in the Middle East and put pressure on the Reactionary Oil Sheiks when necessary. This is the West's original position essentially.
2. Those who do not recognize or have extreme antipathy for the Jewish State for ideological/theological reasons, ranging from anti-Zionism to anti-Semitism in fervor. The world nexus point for this camp lies in the Middle East, concentrated particularly with Islamist reactionaries, and of course, resurgent Fascists and Nazis around the world.
3. The USSR and Soviet Bloc after Stalin, seeing the effects of number #1 and number #2 and thus allying with the Reactionary forces worldwide under heading #2. I don't think Stalin would have approved. Point is moot now since the Soviet Union physically doesn't exist anymore, except that the Left today has unthinkingly accepted this position by default.
4. The Western Camp is now slowly tending towards #2 with respect to Israel, which is divided into defeatist versus nationalist camps itself.
Stalin i'm sure saw that while the Jewish State might be somewhat reactionary itself, the forces of International Capital and Reaction would turn against it over time given it's lone position in the Middle East. This, and that Zionist Jewry had a seemingly innate tendency towards Socialism in the course of it's Settlement of the Holy Land.
But where does that leave us today, with almost no Old Left of significance, and the collapse of both the Communist Bloc and of the West's spiritual and moral moorings, in regards to the Jewish question?
But man is a fickle and disreputable creature and perhaps, like a chess-player, is interested in the process of attaining his goal rather than the goal itself.