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By Ter
#15065155
Iran has continued to send sophisticated rockets to Hezbolla.
Those are meant to attack Israeli civilian targets.
Israel bombs those rocket deliveries and has the total right, even obligation towards its own population, to do that, wherever those rockets are stored.
Whining about Israeli raids without mentioning the reason why Israel is doing that is useless.
To stop Israeli raids, stop sending rockets to Hezbolla.
Also, Iran will not be allowed to entrench itself in Syria to threaten the Jewish Homeland.
It is that simple.
By skinster
#15065955


Iran can give weapons to whoever it likes just as the U.S. does and just as Israel does. Israel is acting as al-Qaeda and its offshoots' airforce in Syria, bombing Syrian targets and as you can read below, threatening the downing of civilian planes, right as the SAA and allies continue to make advances in their war against al-Qaeda and its offshoots.

Anyway, it's clear at this stage that the Syrians will win the war, as they have been doing for the last few years. Israel should maybe reconsider repeatedly bombing a country it shares a border with, as well as retreating back over the border with its ending of its military occupation of Syrian territory.

How Low Can Israelis Go?
Not only is Israel bombing neighboring Syria in acts of aggression, the Israeli air force is compounding its criminality by using civilian airliners as cover for their assaults.

That’s the assessment from Russia’s Ministry of Defense which says flight data shows that an air raid by four Israeli F-16 warplanes this week near Damascus deliberately put in danger a civilian airliner with 172 passengers onboard.

Russian MOD spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said the Israeli jets effectively hid behind the radar signal of an Airbus A-320 as it approached Damascus international airport in order to launch airstrikes on targets near the Syrian capital.

It was only due to the skill of the Syrian air defense operators that the passenger plane was correctly identified and escorted out of the firing line. The aircraft was diverted to a safe landing at the Russian air base at Hmeymim further north at Latakia.

Israel has a cynical policy of neither confirming or denying its forces are conducting offensive operations. So, its side of the story remains ambiguous. However, Israeli commanders have admitted previously to carrying out hundreds of airstrikes on Syrian territory over the past two years.

Russian military spokesman Konashenkov said what happened this week was a “typical” ploy used during recent Israeli air raid maneuvers. He said the Israeli air force was knowingly putting civilians in danger as a “shield” for their offensive operation.

The implications are appalling. Not only is Israel violating international law and Syrian sovereignty by carrying out acts of aggression with airstrikes, the Jewish state is also using civilian aircraft as de facto hostages in mid-air. It appears that the nefarious calculation at work by the Israelis is that they are betting the Syrian air defense systems will refrain from taking defensive action so as to avoid civilian casualties. The Israelis are thus able to freely launch their illegal airstrikes while using human shields in the air.

This is by no means the first time the Israelis have used such a dastardly ploy. Russia claims that in the recent past other civilian airliners have been similarly exploited by Israeli warplanes to enable strikes on Syria.

Also, in September 2018, Moscow accused Israel of deliberately putting a Russian reconnaissance plane in danger which led to the death of 15 crew. On that occasion, Israeli F-16s are believed to have knowingly flown behind the radar signal of an IL-20 aircraft as it approached Hmeymim air base and then fired off missiles at Syrian territory. Syrian air defenses mistook the IL-20 for an enemy target and shot down the recon plane with tragic results.

Israel denied on that occasion that it was using the Russian spy plane as a decoy. The Israelis sought to blame the Syrians for incompetent defense operations. Moscow, however, was having none of the Israeli excuses and condemned Tel Aviv for sacrificing Russian lives. Russia then responded by upgrading allied Syrian air defenses with the S-300 system.

Perhaps that S-300 upgrade was a factor in why the civilian airliner escaped this week from accidental shoot-down by Syrian air defense.

In any case, what needs to be called out is the absolute disgraceful behavior of Israel. It has no right to launch airstrikes on Syria in the first place. Countless such attacks have occurred over recent years. Israeli claims about hitting “Iranian targets” within Syria are null and void and indefensible under international law. Israeli strikes are acts of aggression, plain and simple.

As if that it is not bad enough, now we see Israel using civilian airliners in a cowardly and wicked way as a form of protection so that its warplanes can commit their crimes of aggression.

If any other state were to do this, the Western media would be heaping endless vilification upon it. Any other state would be globally condemned as a rogue, terrorist pariah. The United Nations would be inundated with resolutions to impose severe sanctions.

The double standards with which, say Iran, is treated is dumbfounding.

Another astounding hypocrisy is the way Syria is sanctioned left, right and center by the European Union. The war-torn Arab country is unable to import vital medicines because of EU sanctions. Yet the EU does nothing to reprimand Israel for brazen violations of international law.

The question of “how low can you go?” does not just apply to Israel, but also to the Western news media and Israel’s international political supporters, chiefly the American government.

Russia might also rethink its position vis-a-vis Israel the next time Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wants a reception in Moscow.

Until Israel begins to abide by international law, it should be treated with a cold shoulder. The despicable event this week of endangering a civilian airliner should be seen as the last straw for indulging Israel as if it is a normal state.
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#15065962
skinster wrote:Israel should maybe reconsider repeatedly bombing a country it shares a border with, as well as retreating back over the border with its ending of its military occupation of Syrian territory.


it doesn't make any sense to do that
What Assad is gonna do start a war?
of course he wont do that. even if he wanted Russians wont allow him he is their bitch now.
By skinster
#15065967
Zionist Nationalist wrote:it doesn't make any sense to do that


Well, it would make sense to do that for security reasons that Israel is often shedding crocodile tears for, but it's clear that Israel doesn't want peace with its neighbours, it wants their land and/or to make war on them.

Once the Syrians have kicked the Islamists out, they're going to take back the Golan from JSIL.
#15065969
skinster wrote:Well, it would make sense to do that for security reasons that Israel is often shedding crocodile tears for, but it's clear that Israel doesn't


For security resons?!
its exactly the opposite because of security issues Golan heights should never be given up

skinster wrote:Once the Syrians have kicked the Islamists out, they're going to take back the Golan from JSIL.


No they wont.
By skinster
#15065972


Zionist Nationalist wrote:For security resons?!
its exactly the opposite because of security issues Golan heights should never be given up


It's a criminal occupation and a way to make good relations with Syria is to give their land back (and cease the airstrikes). But as we already know, Israel is not interested in peace with its neighbours.
#15065980
skinster wrote:https://twitter.com/walid970721/status/1226575827149754368?s=20



It's a criminal occupation and a way to make good relations with Syria is to give their land back (and cease the airstrikes). But as we already know, Israel is not interested in peace with its neighbours.


There is not much to gain from peace with Syria its not worth giving up golan heights for that
we need peace with Lebanon and that can be achieved when Hezbollah will be disarmed
By Rich
#15070577
Ter wrote:Iran has continued to send sophisticated rockets to Hezbolla.
Those are meant to attack Israeli civilian targets.
Israel bombs those rocket deliveries and has the total right, even obligation towards its own population, to do that, wherever those rockets are stored.
Whining about Israeli raids without mentioning the reason why Israel is doing that is useless.
To stop Israeli raids, stop sending rockets to Hezbolla.
Also, Iran will not be allowed to entrench itself in Syria to threaten the Jewish Homeland.
It is that simple.

That's the complete opposite of simple. Trying to control the internal policies of a dictatorship is an impossible task that is toxic and corrupting to the democratic countries that are trying to manipulate the dictatorship. Many of us frankly have had quite enough of Neo Con manipulations. Assad is still leader of Syria because Israel wanted him to remain as leader. Assad would easily have been swept away if Israel wanted it. Russia only entered Syria to try and save Assad, because he had Israel's blessing. A compromise could have been facilitated to get Assad to withdraw into Latakian redoubt, that would have allowed Russia to keep its Naval base and saved Syria's infidels' from genocide. But Israel didn't want that either.

The only solution is for Israel to reoccupy Southern Lebanon and ruthless cleanse it of all Muslim terrorists. This is best done by no nonsense local allies, rather than bleedin heart liberal Israeli Army forces. But what if lots of Muslim terrorist sympathisers decide to leave and create a labour shortage? No problem, they can be replaced by Infidel asylum seekers from all over the Middle East.
By Atlantis
#15070773
So, Erdogan is getting hammered by his friend Putin in Syria. Now he is turning to Nato again after having courted the Russians for years. But Nato countries are in no mood to support Erdogan's expansionist policies in Syria. That's what happens when you play one side against the other, @Istanbuller, you end up between two chairs and no friends. Turks will get killed in Syria and Libya, and when your jihadist proxy forces are out of a job, they will turn on Turkey like the Mujaheddin turned on their former masters. Be aware of the monsters you created.
By Istanbuller
#15070800
Atlantis wrote:So, Erdogan is getting hammered by his friend Putin in Syria. Now he is turning to Nato again after having courted the Russians for years. But Nato countries are in no mood to support Erdogan's expansionist policies in Syria. That's what happens when you play one side against the other, @Istanbuller, you end up between two chairs and no friends. Turks will get killed in Syria and Libya, and when your jihadist proxy forces are out of a job, they will turn on Turkey like the Mujaheddin turned on their former masters. Be aware of the monsters you created.

You don't know what you are talking.

Turkey is trying to save millions of Syrians from being displaced. Otherwise, this will result in refugee influx to Europe. This may lead European Union to collapse. Putin exactly wants this happening.

You should be behind Turkey to support him to install democracy and free elections into Syria. Because Russia wants the opposite.
By Atlantis
#15070815
Donna wrote:Hopefully this backfires on Turkey and its urban centers rise up in rebellion.


I'm afraid, that hope may be in vain. Turks are extremely nationalistic and eager for military aggression, as long as not too many body bags come back. That's why they use Al Qaeda proxy forces to do the dirty business.

Istanbuller wrote:Turkey is trying to save millions of Syrians from being displaced. Otherwise, this will result in refugee influx to Europe. This may lead European Union to collapse.


Turkey is supporting terrorists to topple foreign governments. You are using the refugees from your wars to try and blackmail Europe. And now you want to destroy Europe - again. You guys never change.

No @Istanbuller, let's start by handing back Constantinople, then we can talk. You go and suck Putin dick, Nato has no use for traitors. Good thing the Greeks vetoed Nato's statement of support for Turkey. You want to fuck everybody, everybody will fuck you. Enjoy the ride. :lol:
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