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Who is going to win democrat nominee?

Bernie Sanders
23
47%
Joe Biden
19
39%
Elizabeth Warren
4
8%
Other
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6%
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@Tainari88 ;

Indeed, these people are going to get the absolute crushing that they deserve. And then after, the grown ups will have to take charge again.

I'm sorry, as a Socialist and as a Christian, I have no respect for these people like Bill and Hillary Clinton, or Michael Bloomberg, or any of the whole lot of pathetic liars and mercenaries.
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It was good, but she is of course also trying to recover from misjudging her attacks on Bernie, which is why she left him alone for most of the night. Still, her cruelty was admirable. She was ruthless.
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annatar1914 wrote:@Tainari88 ;

Indeed, these people are going to get the absolute crushing that they deserve. And then after, the grown ups will have to take charge again.

I'm sorry, as a Socialist and as a Christian, I have no respect for these people like Bill and Hillary Clinton, or Michael Bloomberg, or any of the whole lot of pathetic liars and mercenaries.



That is all they will ever be my dearest Annatar1914. Mercenaries and liars.

People who change the world and transform the world? Who are they really? Not liars and not mercenaries. But people with courage, with truth and with a consistent dedication to serving others without self interest.

For me a great politician is someone like Mandela. I read an entire book on his life. From start to finish. He was a lawyer, an African who had if not the strongest sense of identity that I have ever read...and also was accused of terrorism against the state...wound up in jail on Robbin Island in South Africa and he was there for 27 years. Wound up becoming the leader of a racially divided nation riven by racial violence and hatred.

Trying to make sense of a world that only thought of insanity as a way to live.

Someone everyone should study. Madiba.

My little island's nationalist hero that almost all Puerto Ricans respect innately Annatar14 from the most conservative and right leaning to the most radical and left leaning? Was mulatto. Half black and half white. He was us. Who we are. Both races fused together.

I wish people would realize that the segregation of the human race is something one chooses to do...it is not automatic and natural. People flock together if they are in close proximity together. How all people interact has a lot to do with if you respect them as your companeros.

Anyway, these folks are going to be crushed Annatar. No doubt about it. The establishment can't accept that the people are not really convinced about the supposed puppets they are presenting to avoid changing the society.
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Tainari88 wrote:That is all they will ever be my dearest Annatar1914. Mercenaries and liars.

People who change the world and transform the world? Who are they really? Not liars and not mercenaries. But people with courage, with truth and with a consistent dedication to serving others without self interest.

For me a great politician is someone like Mandela. I read an entire book on his life. From start to finish. He was a lawyer, an African who had if not the strongest sense of identity that I have ever read...and also was accused of terrorism against the state...wound up in jail on Robbin Island in South Africa and he was there for 27 years. Wound up becoming the leader of a racially divided nation riven by racial violence and hatred.

Trying to make sense of a world that only thought of insanity as a way to live.

Someone everyone should study. Madiba.

My little island's nationalist hero that almost all Puerto Ricans respect innately Annatar14 from the most conservative and right leaning to the most radical and left leaning? Was mulatto. Half black and half white. He was us. Who we are. Both races fused together.

I wish people would realize that the segregation of the human race is something one chooses to do...it is not automatic and natural. People flock together if they are in close proximity together. How all people interact has a lot to do with if you respect them as your companeros.

Anyway, these folks are going to be crushed Annatar. No doubt about it. The establishment can't accept that the people are not really convinced about the supposed puppets they are presenting to avoid changing the society.


Thank you.

I've been to Puerto Rico twice in my life, short visits to and from San Juan, and lived in the Caribbean for a while when I was a teenager. My older sister's first husband was Puerto Rican, a Soldier...

In that time I also made a lifelong friends of an Egyptian Coptic Christian family and also befriended students from Iran, just as the Iranian Revolution was in it's first moments. I've been to Mexico, to England, and to Russia.

I'm from the American South, and a guy my age gets a number of assumptions thrown at me about how I'm ''supposed to be'' from various sorts of people. I mean, for example it was hard to tell my peers that my first real ''crush'' as a boy growing to a man on a female star was Pam Grier, but I also liked Sybil Danning later on, so...

So I was two people as a young man making my way in the world, not one. People think it's crazy to believe that American society is so conformist, and a kind of privatized and informal cultural totalitarianism is at work here.

But you know, and my family in Russia knows, and my Egyptian friends, and the black people I knew in the Caribbean and in Mexico. Everybody except in America seems to know who are the Oligarchs. Maybe that is changing.
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annatar1914 wrote:Thank you.

I've been to Puerto Rico twice in my life, short visits to and from San Juan, and lived in the Caribbean for a while when I was a teenager. My older sister's first husband was Puerto Rican, a Soldier...

In that time I also made a lifelong friends of an Egyptian Coptic Christian family and also befriended students from Iran, just as the Iranian Revolution was in it's first moments. I've been to Mexico, to England, and to Russia.

I'm from the American South, and a guy my age gets a number of assumptions thrown at me about how I'm ''supposed to be'' from various sorts of people. I mean, for example it was hard to tell my peers that my first real ''crush'' as a boy growing to a man on a female star was Pam Grier, but I also liked Sybil Danning later on, so...

So I was two people as a young man making my way in the world, not one. People think it's crazy to believe that American society is so conformist, and a kind of privatized and informal cultural totalitarianism is at work here.

But you know, and my family in Russia knows, and my Egyptian friends, and the black people I knew in the Caribbean and in Mexico. Everybody except in America seems to know who are the Oligarchs. Maybe that is changing.


I always knew you were a cool guy. I did. From the first time I read you @annatar1914.

With more time and wisdom and experience I have come to realize that trying to figure out why some individual's hearts are open and free since a very young age and with time only becomes more so, and others allow their hearts to become hard and closed and they refuse to change it.

I am realizing Annatar that very few human beings are able to see just how connected all of humanity is....they get so caught up in differences that they fail to realize that being connected and being a part of a big whole (human beings, animals, plants, the natural elements like carbon, hydrogen, helium, etc.) is all a part of us and we are a part of it. To fail to recognize our common humanity has to do with the individuals who fail to feel connected to anything. At all. The drift along in life and it is even hard for them to feel at all. Numb in many ways. Some psychological experts are starting to realize they do have nuerological disorders. But they also grow up without a very thorough socialization process. Or they grow up in surroundings that are not good at disciplining out the anti-social aspects of their behaviors.

I have accepted now at age 54 that some humans are born with exceptionally great and beautiful hearts and it never changes throughout their lives. And others? Never got a good heart from the beginning and never will.

It is difficult to accept that the heartless people will wind up going to their graves without much they can do to improve their lack of empathy and lack of love and lack of thought about others. It is just how they are...it is almost spiritually dark to the point that only something outside of human culture could change that.

That is what life teaches us. You? You won't ever have that issue Annatar. You were made to be spiritual, have a great heart and feel connected to most humans always. And have a very deep moral compass and spiritually relevant compass.

That is your destiny. You are very very fortunate. Blessed and loved. Siempre.
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This poll needs updating with 2020 candidates campaign slogans:

Bernie: America is one of the only countries without a communist economic collapse ,we can do better

Biden: I dont want to go to jail

Bloomberg: How much is the nomination worth to you?

Buttigieg: Im going to fvck America in the ass

Warren: I am *looks out window* a white working class American
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colliric wrote:By the way, I think Tulsi Gabbard being barred from the stage and Bloomberg being there instead is a disgrace.

How can that happen? He bought his spot on the stage!

At least Warren chucked him straight under the bus. Hopefully that continues. Respect for Warren, she might just have saved her campaign.

Hillary Clinton referred to Tulsi Gabbard as a favorite of the Russians. That pretty much doomed her chances in the minds of most Democrats.
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Tainari88 wrote:People who change the world and transform the world? Who are they really? Not liars and not mercenaries. But people with courage, with truth and with a consistent dedication to serving others without self interest.

Liars and ruthless people change the world too. I remember when you could go up to an airplane gate and meet someone coming off an airplane without a ticket, without a security check. Hell, it was not so long ago you could go into a high rise, step into an elevator and go up to a floor without a security pass. Today, high rise buildings have secure turnstiles or gates preventing the public from entering without security being involved. A friend of mine works in the Salesforce tower in SF. Salesforce pays for a police officer to be in their lobby. My buddy the cop sometimes does that for overtime pay. He calls it "hobo hockey" as their primary function is to keep homeless people out of skyscraper lobbies so they don't shoot up heroin and then crap in the lobby.

Terrorists have definitely changed the world as have mass shooters. I don't think of them and think of courage, truth, and selflessness. Hitler certainly changed the world. There have been a lot of assholes that changed the world.

Tainari88 wrote:Some psychological experts are starting to realize they do have nuerological disorders. But they also grow up without a very thorough socialization process.

Perhaps maternal deprivation due to women leaving infants and returning to the workforce, and the poor infants suffering like the Rhesus monkeys in the Harry Harlow experiments?

Hindsite wrote:Hillary Clinton referred to Tulsi Gabbard as a favorite of the Russians. That pretty much doomed her chances in the minds of most Democrats.

Hawaiians don't seem to do all that well on the national stage. I think they don't have much media savvy as people from bigger media markets. At any rate, the Democrats are in full panic now with Sanders winning so big in Nevada.
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blackjack21 wrote:Liars and ruthless people change the world too.

Yes, El Chapo (shorty) and the Mexican cartels and all those illegal immigrants flooding across our southern border with Mexico, bringing all manner of crime with them, are conveniently ignored as any source of harmful change by the likes of Tainari88. They don't wish to admit that there are a lot of evil people in the Spanish speaking world that have changed things for the worse. They wish to claim it is all due to racist white English speaking people and give all the brown and black people a pass. What hypocrites.
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Hindsite wrote:Yes, El Chapo (shorty) and the Mexican cartels and all those illegal immigrants flooding across our southern border with Mexico, bringing all manner of crime with them, are conveniently ignored as any source of harmful change by the likes of Tainari88. They don't wish to admit that there are a lot of evil people in the Spanish speaking world that have changed things for the worse. They wish to claim it is all due to racist white English speaking people and give all the brown and black people a pass. What hypocrites.


Hindsite stick to dealing with saying Halelujah and thinking Christ was on the side of rich people and conservatives who scream if they have to give one more penny in taxes to the homeless.

You are as fake a Christian as can be. You are a racist. Not too different than the people in Georgia in the past that used to lynch black people from trees. The hypocrite is you.

Drugs? That thread I already dealt with it. You choose to ignore my point of view on drug dealers in every nationality because you think I am part of the evil Spanish speaking drug dealer culture. You are just another racist hiding behind the Cross of Jesus. You should be ashamed of yourself for being that nasty, but you aren't.

I don't respect your writings Hindsite. They are not of an educated man at all.
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blackjack21 wrote:Liars and ruthless people change the world too. I remember when you could go up to an airplane gate and meet someone coming off an airplane without a ticket, without a security check. Hell, it was not so long ago you could go into a high rise, step into an elevator and go up to a floor without a security pass. Today, high rise buildings have secure turnstiles or gates preventing the public from entering without security being involved. A friend of mine works in the Salesforce tower in SF. Salesforce pays for a police officer to be in their lobby. My buddy the cop sometimes does that for overtime pay. He calls it "hobo hockey" as their primary function is to keep homeless people out of skyscraper lobbies so they don't shoot up heroin and then crap in the lobby.

They changed the world alright. Is that the kind of change you want? More fear and less freedoms? Might is right? Endless war and destruction. Cutting heads off and in turn cutting more heads? Hatred, constant competition for scarce resources? Polluted environments? Everyone living in constant fear? Corruption in politics only? White people in the USA only? Collapsed economies? More extreme violence because PROFIT greed mentality is more important than humane values? I don't want that kind of change Blackjack21. I got a baby boy that is 8 years old, and a 22 year old young black son who's futures I care about deeply. I don't want more racism, more elitism and more violence and more segregations and more class conscious callousness and lack of respect for others to be their legacy. Or a polluted planet and paranoia and fear about the Arabs, and nuclear war for them? No. I don't want that kind of change. You can change the world for the better BJ or for the worse. I choose the better. That is the kind of change I go for. You? You can worry about the Sinaloa Cartel and the MS 13 and everything else. I am a Latin American that scene. I got news for the ones who believe the stereotypes of Latin Drug dealers.....there are a whole lot more decent Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Colombians, etc who are not drug dealers and if you keep up the bullshit drug dealer accusations like Hindsite just did? They will be voting against the ones who keep saying we are rapists and drug dealers. You create your own backlash.

Terrorists have definitely changed the world as have mass shooters. I don't think of them and think of courage, truth, and selflessness. Hitler certainly changed the world. There have been a lot of assholes that changed the world.

You want to stop another Hitler again coming to power? You better stop even thinking about Master Race theories and start providing a jump in IQ for the ones with the obstacles and problems with Bregman's "Scarcity Mentality". George Orwell was right....poverty is an annihilation of the future. Start working BJ to make sure all the kids struggling out there have a future they can believe in. If you don't like the Black or Latino youth? Help out the white youth who live in poverty. Lord knows there are a lot of them in California as well BJ. There are.


Perhaps maternal deprivation due to women leaving infants and returning to the workforce, and the poor infants suffering like the Rhesus monkeys in the Harry Harlow experiments?

Women need time with their babies. Bernie wants generous maternity leave packages for women. I think pay men and women enough that at least one parent can stay at home and help new mothers like they do in France. You get someone to do laundry, child care, cook for a few weeks til the mother or partner of the mother can do it on their own.


Hawaiians don't seem to do all that well on the national stage. I think they don't have much media savvy as people from bigger media markets. At any rate, the Democrats are in full panic now with Sanders winning so big in Nevada.


Hawaii has a lot of Asians of all sorts. They are not a lily white state. I don't think it was an accident BJ that Obama was born there in 1961. They are like PR...used to racial mixing all day and every day. Producing mixed people culturally and racially. It is the norm for many tropical climates in the world. I think good weather makes people think in having a good time....hee hee....in many ways....the fear stops and the love takes over in excellent weather with beautiful flowers, blue skies and warm climates....freezing your ass and worried about storing shit for months for the winter is not a Hawaiian or Puerto Rican concern....thus having fun in the sun then is. Lol. Just a thought for you BJ.
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And you still are stealing it!

Anyway, while I see Sanders as the most likely to make significant changes, the Democrats are not likely to start giving back the land. But at least the policies that Sanders supports would also benefit indigenous people in the USA, since they are disproportionately affected by poverty and many of these policies address this.
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Tainari88 wrote:Hindsite stick to dealing with saying Halelujah and thinking Christ was on the side of rich people and conservatives who scream if they have to give one more penny in taxes to the homeless.

You are as fake a Christian as can be. You are a racist. Not too different than the people in Georgia in the past that used to lynch black people from trees. The hypocrite is you.

Drugs? That thread I already dealt with it. You choose to ignore my point of view on drug dealers in every nationality because you think I am part of the evil Spanish speaking drug dealer culture. You are just another racist hiding behind the Cross of Jesus. You should be ashamed of yourself for being that nasty, but you aren't.

I don't respect your writings Hindsite. They are not of an educated man at all.

Praise the Lord.
HalleluYah
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Hindsite wrote:Praise the Lord.
HalleluYah



A video for you...it is all about you Hindsite. Enjoy it!



Once you realize how your heart is so rotten Hindsite you then got this guy waiting to explain to you:



Yes, you break Christian doctrine every single day. You are a fake.

You can go and ask for a Halleluyah....because the reality is you a racist, ignorant and bigoted man. You spend more time in here praising Trump of God and don't care if the guy does whatever that is sinful. Trump hardly goes to chruch. You spend more time on politics than on religion and helping others Hindsite.

You hide behind the Cross. It won't save you when the Christians like in the second video decide to see how you led a Christian life. The Bible was not the main way you led your life. You lie all the time against me. Against anyone who dares to question the rule of Trump.

I have never seen such a heretic as bad as you are Hindsite.

But, have fun in the lake of fire of your own making.

Until you realize how racist, and ignorant your opinions are on here? I don't care if you pray for me or not.

I have enough people praying for me who are true Christians. You can keep your fake prayers for your fake thoughts.

I think @annatar1914 told you the truth about Aesop's fables. The wolf in sheeps clothing. The problem is you don't have enough of an education to be a good wolf.

You might consider working on being a more informed Devil. Because the Christian you are now is a complete and utter failure!
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Don't let him get under your skin too much. It's not worth it. He won't change. He's probably been like that for years already.

I bet he called George Bush the "Burning Bush Of God". Typical Religious Republican Party nut.
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late wrote:We did steal their country.

Oh for God's sake is there no end to lefties falsification of history. Hawaiian society was hideously reactionary. We liberated the ordinary Hawaiians from semi slavery.
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