Atlantis wrote:@Rancid, you can't lockdown a city without people noticing, you can't hide highly contagious corpses without relatives and funeral parlor staff noticing - not in a culture where ancestor worship is the most defining factor.
You have to see it from the perspective of Western leaders lying through the teeth and getting away with it.
It's odd that you think China wouldn't lie, and everyone else would. When the reality is, everyone will fucking lie. It's really more about degrees of lying here.
Not when you have a social credit system with prying eyes everywhere, mass media control, and a super centralized authoritarian government. It becomes much easier to tell lies and control/fudge data.
BTW, I also believe western governments too are lying. Though at least in the US, it can be a bit harder to lie, since the US system of governments are less centralized than say China. State/local authorities have a lot more power here and can give the federal government the middle finger (hell, local governments sue/challenge the federal government constantly). They all publish their own statistics which can be more easily cross checked for consistency/inconsistency example. Plus, there's a stronger culture and protection for wistleblowers in the west.
Decentralization, basically makes it harder to fudge/lie. This is besides the point.