@blackjack21 Coronavirus is a very different pandemic from the Black Death, for example--but not completely unlike the Spanish Influenza. Pandemics are recurring, but their nature isn't due to something else we can postulate: mutation. If they were "completely predictable" as you've suggested, we could in theory have a response to every conceivable pandemic.
We definitely could have a response to the obviously likely pandemics. And Covid-19 is one of the most likely. We have seen it before, twice, in recent years with MERS and SARS. Every student of Public Health runs the Covid (like) scenario until they are blue in the face.
We have known for a long time that we were vulnerable. Obama attempted (too little) to have some shade of preparedness. Trump took it down. He has denied that but it remains true.
There is absolutely no doubt that every epidemiologist in the country has been studying and predicting this very thing for decades. It has always been discussed in terms of "when" not "if". On January 28th (Note that in my anger I wrote "respirators" rather than "ventilators" but it turns out both are true.)::
f we have a major outbreak of flu or corona virus we need respirators. (Ventilators) We do not have nearly as many of them as we need on the best of days. Just make a guess at how many the average hospital has. See what I mean. And they are the lifesaver. (With flu we have drugs that can, if given early, make the flu less severe. Nothing like that with CV.)
That was two months ago and from a lowly community health guy in the hinterlands.... and the Trump administration has yet to do nearly enough to produce ventilators in any reasonable number. What if we had started then? How many would we have now? And while we are playing "what if", what if the administration had simply not lied? How many people would be alive today who had sheltered? How many PPR sets would we have? And, since some pea brains can't stop seeing this as an economic problem, how much more considered would the response to the stock market have been if it were not for the obvious lack of leadership and consistent misinformation coming out of Washington.
There is no doubt that when the history of this is written, the federal response will be seen as a disgrace. For the cost of one Aircraft Carrier we could potentially have saved far more lives than we lost in Korea and Vietnam combined.
@blackjack21 What are the odds of a pandemic happening and Donald Trump being president of the United States at the same time? Same guy who has been warning about China for 20 years... Pphhhewww!
Really? You do post for the bottom feeders who would see any sense in this at all. Trump has NEVER warned about a pandemic coming out of China. His ONLY warnings were about economic competitiveness. And all the while negotiating for a piece of the Chinese pie for his family and himself.
Trump may be the most flawed president in history from a personality point of view, but that does not mean he can make the correct decision every once in a while.
I too am a lifelong centrist republican. So go with me on this....Do you realize what you just wrote? You called Trump "the most flawed president in history" but then qualified it with "from a personality point of view". And you are OK with that?
Then you said: "that does not mean he can make the correct decision every once in a while."
So that is your measure of an acceptable president? Not mine. I want a president who is smart enough to look around the room and see the vast talent and expertise he has at his disposal, and then use that expertise to do what is right for the American people. This did not happen and it is still not happening. When does a president's personality flaws become such a clear and present danger that he should be removed under the 25th amendment? I guess a quarter of a million deaths is not bad enough so you please enlighten me on what IS bad enough.
None of this horrible result of the federal mismanagement and lack of leadership was unpredictable. The experts told him, in no uncertain terms, that the was inevitable absent draconian measures. He chose to stand in front of the American people and lie. It really is as simple as that.
Any person (left or right) that believes his future is in the hands of whomever becomes president needs to stop and think.
And they will draw the inevitable conclusion that to a very great degree it is. Ask any soldier who has died in a brush fire war or intervention. Ask many of those who have and will die of CV because of a lack of leadership and preparedness. (Ask those who die because they do not have a ventilator and the administration and STILL not told the army where to send its spares.
The President changes everyone's life profoundly in good times or bad. To deny this in the service of some notion of "everyone for himself" is folly.