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Donna wrote:No Justice, No Peace.


These "peaceful protesters" aren't after peace and justice; all they want is gibbs.

Gibbsmedat or we're gonna burn your shit down. Fun fact: they always wanted to burn your shit down they just wanted an excuse. Even if the 4 police officers were arrested today or even after right the video came out it would have made little difference.

Why couldn't we learn from the Rodney King riots, or hell even from the Ferguson riots from just five years ago?

Oh well, at least we can rest assured knowing that the lousy Democrat commies probably won't be trying to disarm the middle class while white neighborhoods are going up in flames.





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maz wrote:These "peaceful protesters" aren't after peace and justice; all they want is gibbs.

Gibbsmedat or we're gonna burn your shit down. Fun fact: they always wanted to burn your shit down they just wanted an excuse. Even if the 4 police officers were arrested today or even after the video came out it would have made little difference.

We could we learn from the Rodney King riots, or hell even from the Ferguson riots from just five years ago?

Oh well, at least we can rest assured knowing that the lousy Democrat commies probably won't be trying to disarm the middle class while white neighborhoods are going up in flames.


I knew it was only a matter of time before PoFo's resident black hater would chime in.
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Unthinking Majority wrote:Of course they're being racist, and yes a lot of it is hatred and resentment. I'm giving you the reason why many of them are. I'm sure there are some if not many police who are just straight up racist a-holes and would be no matter if white people made up 90% of all criminals. But there are many police, even normally good people, who have worked for years and start racially profiling based on what they deal with every day. As I said, when you work for years & see that one particular demographic is committing crimes far more than other groups, you can grow prejudicial, and this can quickly turn into resentment and even hatred.

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Around 50% of the crime including violent crime in the USA is committed by blacks, who make up only 13% of the population. Among this 13%, the large majority is committed by poor young black males. Of course there's a crisis. They are human beings too, and we need to empathize with them, and ask why they are doing this. One of the key reasons is poverty, which has largely been brought about by generational racism throughout history.


This argument is completely bogus. Over-policing of black communities inflates black crime rates as more blacks get arrested than whites for similar offences. Black communities are over-policed because of institutional racism, not because individual officers believe black people commit more crimes. Racial bias in police encounters is real, but that's not why there are regressive policing policies in black communities.


I think all 3 are a crisis, and all 3 create a feedback loop that perpetuates each other.


To say that there is a national crisis of criminality among a racial minority group is some pretty cringe karen tier fash shit.

Unthinking Majority wrote:How do you not understand how racism has been reduced in the US since the 1960's?

I'm not saying there's still isn't a lot of racism in the US, but it's certainly leaps and bounds better than the 60's. For instance, a black POTUS would never have been elected in the 60's or 70's.


Discrimination has been greatly reduced, as with overt bigotry and prejudice among a great deal of the populace. But I don't think you understand what racism is if you think it hasn't worsened during the nearly four decades of attacks on public programs and social security that have decimated black communities and incarcerated millions.
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This policeman should be punished to the full extent of the law. This is disgusting murder.

What measures can be taken to ensure that this is stopped once and for all?

But it does seem to be cultural problem of American policing. The US police always seem bad tempered and highly aggressive. Just so much as make eye contact with them and they will arrest you.
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Donna wrote:This argument is completely bogus. Over-policing of black communities inflates black crime rates as more blacks get arrested than whites for similar offences. Black communities are over-policed because of institutional racism, not because individual officers believe black people commit more crimes.



We don't even have to look at arrests to see that blacks commit crimes at an astoundingly high rate, we can just look at the proportion of perpetrators identified as black by crime witnesses and victims.

And the reason black communities have so much policing is because the black people that live in those communities demanded it.

Donna is just making shit up.
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Sivad wrote:We don't even have to look at arrests to see that blacks commit crimes at an astoundingly high rate, we can just look at the proportion of perpetrators identified as black by crime witnesses and victims.


George Floyd matched the description of a witness. This is apparently why the cops stopped him and subsequently killed him.

The other day, a women who let her dog off the leash in Central Park phoned the police after she supposedly witnessed a black man attacking her.

You also seem to be assuming that victims of white offenders are just as likely to report as victims of black offenders. This seems like an unrealistic assumption.

And the reason black communities have so much policing is because the black people that live in those communities demanded it.


Really? Did a black person call the police on George Floyd?
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Sivad wrote:We don't even have to look at arrests to see that blacks commit crimes at an astoundingly high rate, we can just look at the proportion of perpetrators identified as black by crime witnesses and victims.

And the reason black communities have so much policing is because the black people that live in those communities demanded it.

Donna is just making shit up.


Racialising crime is a dangerous path. Crime does not have a particular ethnic profile. Most criminals in Western countries are white.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you make this statement.

Maybe one solution to these types of racist killings is to have black police officers police black communities.
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I'm glad this dangerous white man has been removed from our streets.



Donna wrote:I knew it was only a matter of time before PoFo's resident black hater would chime in.


Please, Donna. He just wants to educate people on black criminality.

Political Interest wrote:Maybe one solution to these types of racist killings is to have black police officers police black communities.


One thing that's overlooked is that a lot of city police officers no longer actually reside within the cities they police. They often live in the suburbs surrounding those cities, and are thus not a part of the community.
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wat0n wrote:The cop is now in custody.

Also, I don't see how Obama is pouring gasoline on the fire.


It's because Obama's statement is thoughtful and considerate. For Trumpster dimwits this is offensive, especially when it comes from a black person.

Instead, what really calms things down is Trump's "when the looting starts, the shooting starts".
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Rugoz wrote:It's because Obama's statement is thoughtful and considerate. For Trumpster dimwits this is offensive, especially when it comes from a black person.

Instead, what really calms things down is Trump's "when the looting starts, the shooting starts".


It's because Obama is a black man with authority and he is speaking. The real problem Maz, ZN, and our other forums racists have with riots is that black people are supposed to quietly accept whatever happens to them and not rock the boat. A riot in response to lack of police accountability is a fundamental rejection of that, and that makes racists angry.

It's also a tepid as fuck letter, Obama wasn't even calling for the cop to be arrested.
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What the Data Say about Police Shootings

Although the databases are still imperfect, they make it clear that police officers’ use of lethal force is much more common than previously thought, and that it varies significantly across the country, including the two locations where Brown and Garner lost their lives. St Louis (of which Ferguson is a suburb) has one of the highest rates of police shooting civilians per capita in the United States, whereas New York City consistently has one of the lowest, according to one database. Deciphering what practices and policies drive such differences could identify opportunities to reduce the number of shootings and deaths for both civilians and police officers, scientists say.


American police kill roughly 1000 civilians per year. Some of them will be warranted, far from most of them not. As for black officers killing fewer young black men than white officers, the data doesn't support that.

What New Research Says About Race and Police Shootings

Instead of using population, Cesario analyzed variables such as the race of the police officers, crime rates, and the racial demographics of locations where police shootings happened in 2015. From that, he derived that black and Latino victims of police killings were more likely to have been shot by black and Latino cops, and that ”might not be due to bias on the part of Black or Hispanic officers, but instead to simple overlap between officer and county demographics.”
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