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maz wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzkBGQx3HAc

:lol: What's wrong with these people, why are they not feeling guilty for their Eurasian privilege? Anyway I'm sure this must be the fault of White Supremacists.
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MadMonk wrote:American police kill roughly 1000 civilians per year. Some of them will be warranted, far from most of them not.


That's a weird way to phrase that. 99% of police shootings are justified, the shootings aren't the problem. The problem is abuse of authority, harassment, and non-lethal use of excessive force, that shit happens a lot. There are conservatively hundreds of thousands of police misconduct incidents every year, that's the real problem that we need to be addressing. One good way to begin addressing it would be to make an example out of the cops that murder people on public streets for no fucking reason at all.
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MadMonk wrote:What the Data Say about Police Shootings



American police kill roughly 1000 civilians per year. Some of them will be warranted, far from most of them not. As for black officers killing fewer young black men than white officers, the data doesn't support that.

What New Research Says About Race and Police Shootings


There's also the paper by Roland Fryer on this matter. According to it, there are no racial differences in police shootings but there are differences by race of the civilian for other forms of non-lethal interactions with the police, ones that don't go away after introducing some controls.

I tend to believe racism is an incomplete explanation for this phenomenon, even if it's entirely possible there's some of that going on (if not within the police, then outside of it). I think at least part of the reason has to do with the fact that cops will tend to assume everyone is carrying a gun or is capable of using lethal force, and will not be willing to take any chances. Another issue that was mentioned ITT could be related to Police Unions and the threats of striking if getting too deep into their business as well, for all the hatred some hold against the cops, I'm pretty sure no one wants to go through that.
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:Thats not a solution they will just call them house N*****
the black ghetto behavior pattern is so predictable


There's no real solution as long as people are forced to live in a diverse society. Blacks could police blacks, but they would still be viewed as part of the white man's system, which is laughable seeing that today's USA is clearly not a white man's system. The USA is pretty anti-white actually, and it's obviously run by Jews and the pets they select and have blackmailed. This upcoming election is a complete joke once again. Two hardcore Zionists, Biden and Trump.

What we're seeing in European countries and North America is basically Jews punishing white Europeans for the holocaust. They're forcing us to live with and experience the third world. The whole USA-Israel relationship is also pure humiliation.
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Sivad wrote:That's a weird way to phrase that. 99% of police shootings are justified, the shootings aren't the problem. The problem is abuse of authority, harassment, and non-lethal use of excessive force, that shit happens a lot. There are conservatively hundreds of thousands of police misconduct incidents every year, that's the real problem that we need to be addressing.


The fact that police brutality manifests in a myriad of other ways does not mean police shootings are not a problem.

One good way to begin addressing it would be to make an example out of the cops that murder people on public streets for no fucking reason at all.


The US courts continually provide an example of what happens to cops who kill unarmed black people: a paid vacation and impunity.

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Code Rood wrote:There's no real solution as long as people are forced to live in a diverse society.


I previously asked you to support your claim (that diversity leads to crime) with evidence.

You did not do so.

Now I am asking you again.

Blacks could police blacks, but they would still be viewed as part of the white man's system, which is laughable seeing that today's USA is clearly not a white man's system. The USA is pretty anti-white actually, and it's obviously run by Jews and the pets they select and have blackmailed. This upcoming election is a complete joke once again. Two hardcore Zionists, Biden and Trump.

What we're seeing in European countries and North America is basically Jews punishing white Europeans for the holocaust. They're forcing us to live with and experience the third world. The whole USA-Israel relationship is also pure humiliation.


Your racist conspiracy theories are so boring.
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wat0n wrote:The cop is now in custody.


Thank god. I am in the majority with most rational people in that this was an intentional killing and this maniac and police in general need to be reigned in.

wat0n wrote:Also, I don't see how Obama is pouring gasoline on the fire.


I say this because Obama loves to chime in when there is a racial controversy. I am not saying that he shouldn't be able to do this, but how many other politicians chime in on minor local crime stories? Well, Trump is one who does it sometimes, and I too think that he should refrain from commenting on racially charged local crime issues.

But what other politician does it? Anyone credible?

Do you remember Obama or any other politicians having anything to say about this police shooting?

Do You Remember the MASS RIOTS AND LOOTING After Muslim Cop Mohamed Noor Shot Justine Damond Point Blank in the Chest in Minneapolis?

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In May 2019 Mohamed Noor was found guilty of third degree murder of Justine Damond (Ruszczyk).

Justine Damond was from Australia.

Data on police shootings show more whites are shot by police than blacks but blacks but adjusted to racial breakdowns blacks are more likely to be shot by police than whites.

Following her death by cop there were no riots.

There was no looting.

There was not even a mass protest.

Evidently, some deaths by cop are more outrageous than others.


Actually, Gateway Pundit is wrong; there were mass protests. They were not as big and for did not turn violent. They were heated though, and blacks and whites came together peacefully to demand that the mayor who celebrated the policeman who killed Damond.

And actually this case was worse because if my memory serves me correct, it took months and months for Noor to be arrested and charged. They did not want to prosecute him at all.

Where was Obama?



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Rich wrote::lol: What's wrong with these people, why are they not feeling guilty for their Eurasian privilege? Anyway I'm sure this must be the fault of White Supremacists.


It is a well know fact here in America that the Roof Koreans cannot be accused of racism.

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Fired Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, who was captured on camera kneeling on the neck of George Floyd moments before his death, has been charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter.

He was in law enforcement custody four days after that fatal encounter, Hennepin County attorney Mike Freeman announced on Friday.

"We are in the process of continuing to review the evidence," he said. "There may be subsequent charges later."

If convicted of murder in the third degree, Mr Chauvin faces up to 25 years in prison.

Investigations are pending against three other officers, who have also been dismissed from the force, while the office has focussed on pursuing "the most dangerous perpetrator", Mr Freeman said.

A detailed criminal complaint reveals that Mr Chauvin had his knee on Mr Floyd's neck for nearly three minutes after Mr Floyd was "non-responsive." Mr Chauvin was kneeling on Mr Floyd for nearly nine minutes.

Prosecutors said that "police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous".

Mr Floyd told called out "I can't breathe," "mama," and "please".

"None of the three officers moved from their positions," prosecutors said.

On Thursday, the US Department of Justice revealed that an investigation into the killing of Mr Floyd has become a "top priority" as protests and riots erupted in the wake of his death and the officers' dismissal from the force, with demonstrations demanding that the officers involved be arrested for murder.

Federal agents have opened an investigation to determine whether there was a "willful violation of federal civil rights" while officials including Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey have have urged that authorities seek criminal charges against Mr Chauvin, a white officer, for the death of Mr Floyd, black man, while he was handcuffed and complained that he wasn't able to breathe.

The Minneapolis Police Department has identified that the other fired officers are Thomas Lane, Tou Thao and J Alexander Kueng.

Minnesota is one of three states that categorises murder in the third degree.

No hype, just the advice and analysis you need

In 2019, former Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor was convicted on a charge of third-degree murder in the killing of 911 caller Justine Ruszczyk.

"We have looked very closely at all statues," Mr Freeman said. "This is what we've charged now. The investigation is ongoing."

Body-worn camera and witness footage, medical reports and other evidence that has surfaced was sufficient to press charges, Mr Freeman said.

Reports have revealed that Mr Chauvin — who was on the force for nearly 20 years — has been the subject of more than a dozen complaints filed to the department's Internal Affairs Division, though only two of those complaints were resolved "with discipline".

In 2008, he shot a man who allegedly tried to reach for his gun, according to reports. He also was on the scene of several other police shootings in his career.

Police initially reported that Mr Floyd had resisted arrest and died following a "medical" incident, though video from the scene shows that he cooperated with arresting officers and cried out "I can't breathe" as Mr Chauvin was kneeling on his neck for several minutes before he was unresponsive.

During another night of protests in the wake of Mr Floyd's killing, a police precinct was engulfed in flames on Thursday, following pleas from officials for "peace" as law enforcement had yet to announce whether the officers involved with his death would be held responsible, or whether the department had authorised that use of force.

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz activated the National Guard on Thursday and an urged residents and police to "restore order" before authorities can "can start addressing the issues, before we turn back to where we should be spending our energy: making sure justice is served", he said.

"What the world has witnessed since the killing of George Floyd on Monday has been a visceral pain, a community trying to understand who we are and where we go from here," he said.

The governor said that the arrests of CNN crew covering the protests early on Friday was "inexcusable" after State Police officers were captured arresting the crew live on air.

"I take full responsibility," Governor Walz said.

Independent
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The bullshit autopsy report:

-- It says Floyd had underlying health issues: "The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease.
-- It says three factors contributed to this death: "The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death."
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maz wrote:I say this because Obama loves to chime in when there is a racial controversy. I am not saying that he shouldn't be able to do this, but how many other politicians chime in on minor local crime stories?


You told on yourself and how you instinctively react to any black person discussing any significant topic by by assuming they are making things worse. You're a huge racist, and lol @ "Obama stirring the pot on small, local issue."

But what other politician does it? Anyone credible?


The president, who you don't seem to believe was "tossing gasoline on the fire" by tweeting out that he will have looters shot in response to this small, local issue.

Wow. What a strange pattern. Maz overreacts to the actions of black men and downplays the actions of white men. I didn't know Maz wasn't just racist, but also a cop.
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"any potential intoxicants in his system"

Isn't that like your job to find out or am I missing something here? All right, he might have died of a heart-attack at 63. Please give us something better than this.

Ohhhhh, Hollywood. Why have you lied to me!

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Donna wrote:This argument is completely bogus. Over-policing of black communities inflates black crime rates as more blacks get arrested than whites for similar offences. Black communities are over-policed because of institutional racism, not because individual officers believe black people commit more crimes. Racial bias in police encounters is real, but that's not why there are regressive policing policies in black communities.


Please provide evidence of "over-policing" inflating black crime rates. Blacks kill other blacks at high rates, and you think the problem is too many cops?? Would the black-on-black shootings not happen with less cops? You think very high crime rates among young black men is because they simply arrested more for the same crimes as white people? Do you have evidence to prove any of these claims? So white people are shooting people at the same rates and just not being arrested or going to jail for it in mass numbers? Again, evidence?

I'm also not saying police don't have racist bias, or the courts, yes it does happen, and it's wrong. Just like Floyd's killing

People in Jamaica and Trinidad etc are virtually all black, so are the cops and the judges and the lawyers and the politicians. And they have tons of crime and violence. The primary problems leading to crime there are similar: 1) poverty, and 2) people choosing to do stupid things, like pick up guns and shoot other people, join gangs, do and deal drugs etc.

To say that there is a national crisis of criminality among a racial minority group is some pretty cringe karen tier fash shit.


To say there isn't is to bury your head in the sand. The stats don't lie.

Discrimination has been greatly reduced, as with overt bigotry and prejudice among a great deal of the populace. But I don't think you understand what racism is if you think it hasn't worsened during the nearly four decades of attacks on public programs and social security that have decimated black communities and incarcerated millions.


There have been cuts, this affects low incomes, and you can say disproportionately affects black people since they are often poor. To say it's worse than Jim Crow era 1960's is a bit ridiculous. To say it's due to overt racism is also a claim that's hard to prove. Maybe in some cases it is, maybe in others it isn't. It's hard to prove. I would lay a lot of it on neoliberal economic ideology that is corrupt with politicians bought off to put in policies to benefit the rich to the detriment of the poor and middle class of all races. There's been a lot of policies over the last 40 years that have destroyed the white middle class too. Is this racist?: https://www.pnas.org/content/112/49/15078
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MadMonk wrote:"any potential intoxicants in his system"

Isn't that like your job to find out or am I missing something here? All right, he might have died of a heart-attack at 63. Please give us something better than this.


It's a preliminary report, so still a work in progress, but it's the kind of shit you say to lay the groundwork to get the case dismissed later.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:You told on yourself and how you instinctively react to any black person discussing any significant topic by by assuming they are making things worse. You're a huge racist, and lol @ "Obama stirring the pot on small, local issue."

The president, who you don't seem to believe was "tossing gasoline on the fire" by tweeting out that he will have looters shot in response to this small, local issue.

Wow. What a strange pattern. Maz overreacts to the actions of black men and downplays the actions of white men. I didn't know Maz wasn't just racist, but also a cop.


Why did you omit this part of my quote when you were quoting me? I do think that Trump is being extremely inflammatory with his unnecessary input.

maz wrote:I say this because Obama loves to chime in when there is a racial controversy. I am not saying that he shouldn't be able to do this, but how many other politicians chime in on minor local crime stories? Well, Trump is one who does it sometimes, and I too think that he should refrain from commenting on racially charged local crime issues.
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Political Interest wrote:Racialising crime is a dangerous path. Crime does not have a particular ethnic profile. Most criminals in Western countries are white.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you make this statement.


He's trying to say that African-Americans are culturally backward. But JUST CULTURALLY. Not RACIALLY. IF IT WAS RACIALLY THAT WOULD BE RACIST.
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