Pants-of-dog wrote:I have already discussed why I think that the DA et al are trying to get the murderer off.
You can have faith that the police will proceed in good faith against one of their own, but the ongoing brutality of the last few days suggest against such faith.
Yes, you did, but it seems Minnesota Courts haven't used that standard that there needs to be no specific victim, but have used a standard under which an extreme negligence would get the perpetrator a murder charge - be it from shooting without looking (that's what got Noor the third degree murder charge) or killing someone while drunk driving. I would say a case can be made for third degree murder since there is official federal advice against pressuring the neck, the Minneapolis Police Department doesn't advice using that maneuver and both bystanders and Floyd himself were telling Chauvin to stop.
Second degree murder would be different since it applies whenever the murder is intentional but not premeditated. While it cannot be ruled out, specifying intent here is harder, although not impossible. If it turns out they knew each other, I'd go for it.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Because it does not acknowledge the choking as cause of death. It cites heart problems and the stress of the arrest, as well as the possibility of drugs.
The cops can claim that his heart stopped from the stress of being a gangster being caught.
Did you read the press release? Those are not listed as the cause of death - the examiner's report states that was homicide caused by the choking, and those are just listed as "additional information". The only known major difference with the report by Floyd's family is that their report states he died from asphyxiation, while the examiner's report states he died from cardiac arrest due to the pressure on his neck (choking) and other parts of his body (he had 3 cops on him). This last possibility is not unrealistic which you should be able to find by reading this thread further.
If anything, the examiner's report could even be used to press charges against the other two cops. But if George Floyd was killed by asphyxiation due to choking, it becomes harder to do so. Not impossible, but harder.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Why has almost every single unjustified killing by police not been taken to court and convicted?
Because grand juries have a tendency to acquit. It's not the only reason but a major one, and amenable to cultural and ideological context.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Yes, constant demands to keep police accountable have helped.
This does not change the fact that systemic racism has been a large part of the ongoing police brutality and why cops get away with it.
Right, and since those demands have improved the situation it is thus fair to say that the problem has been on its way to be solved since 2014 and BLM. Why would anyone deny this and pretend no progress has been made since then? Why would anyone expect the issue to become solved overnight when much of the solution requires quite a bit of time to be implemented, including legal precedents on the penalties for illegal use of force by the police?
Pants-of-Dog wrote:It is routine everywhere.
Among people who were unarmed? The law does give a fair amount of latitude for legitimate police killings, but those aren't all that different from what one may see outside the US. I somehow doubt an European policeman would be prosecuted if someone shot him, another officer or bystanders and he killed the gunner while returning fire.
Among armed people, well, we'd need to see what happened in a case by case basis. But regardless of one's race, it's reasonable to expect a harsher police reaction if you are carrying a gun while interacting with them. And as you should be aware, the US does have the 2nd Amendment.
Pants-of-Dog wrote:Notice how the vast majority of killings were by the police.
Actually the majority of killings were done by volunteers and soldiers recruited for taking on police roles during the Boston strike, which shouldn't be surprising: Neither is properly trained for policing roles. https://www.bpstrike1919.org/timeline/
Pants-of-Dog wrote:This is just getting silly.
There is no way to pretend that a white.persin would end up killed by police for this even if the white guy deliberately stole a few things.
@blackjack21 posted an example of a White guy getting killed for counterfeiting, although it's not exactly the same it does show that Whites can be killed by police for (resisting arrest for doing) that sort of thing.
I also think you didn't answer the question: Would a Canadian store clerk call the cops on you if you inadvertently paid counterfeit money and then left without returning the "purchased" product? My guess is that the answer is yes, but they would deal with you differently.