colliric wrote:That's my main disagreement with you guys. I don't think he's the main problem like the rest of you seem to. I'm mainly just shocked most of you are arguing the latter rather than the more logical former.
Trump is symptomatic of a long underlying problem, but he has certainly embraced that position. He has embraced the militarizaiton of the police and the idea that the police should freely use force when their goal is, nominally, to be the impersonal enforcement wing of the judicial system and not use any further force than is necessary. Trump has enthusiastically trumpeted the idea that you, a citizen, are surrounded by vicious thugs waiting to murder you, and the logical extension of that idea that turns police into crusaders constantly fighting against some vague sense of darkness and dread.
Here he is encouraging police officers to be rough with "gang members," which you can read however you want:
Crime has gone down for four decades straight. Their budgets have continued to get larger, and that is not the reason violent crime has gone down (it is due more to the reduction of lead in the average citizen's body). Cops die in the line of duty at lower numbers than ever. Yet we are constantly told that they have to be armed and amped up like Judge Dredd to do a job that should be more focused on social work than beating people into submission.
I think blaming Trump is like blaming the CEO for what his asshole workers are doing right at the very bottom of the corporate structure and letting those assholes get away with it.
This is like blaming Wells Fargo employees for creating accounts and taking out credit cards in customer's names without their knowledge when the pressure came from the top down. Trump has jubilantly cheered on the use of excessive force against all "criminals" before they are even formally sentenced, as evidenced by his desire to unleash the national guard upon the people of DC.
Trump is not the cause of the problem, but this is a case of the fish rotting at the head. Except it's been rotting so long that generations of top-level administrators have graduated into and out of the role of administering a corrupt system.