Tainari88 wrote:The welfare state exists for a reason BJ. It is there for a reason. What is it? You stated it is to buy votes. Wealthy people form organizations and coalitions to retain power and consolidate it all the time. They also conspire to exclude those from the lower classes and keep they fairly powerless in a very undemocratic process.
Actually, they do it very democratically. They are just very dishonest about their intentions.
Tainari88 wrote:I know you are against democracy BJ.
I'm for a representative republic with some limits on suffrage--e.g., idiots cannot vote.
Tainari88 wrote:You are class conscious and you don't really care about Blacks, Latinos, Asians, etc. You don't care. Period.
These are two different constructs. One is class, the other is race. Are you saying that these groups are a race or a class?
Tainari88 wrote:I think you only care about some nationalistic agenda.
Well, that's a way of reducing me to a two-dimensional character, which I'm not.
Tainari88 wrote:The world is not about the USA only and never will be.
When have I ever suggested that the rest of the world should be about the USA only?
Tainari88 wrote:The less people falling into shitty media stories and manipulations.
Really? So tell me how the Minneapolis Police Department, governed by a Democrat Mayor and a black chief of police sends four officers--two white, one black and one Asian--to address the situation with George Floyd, and the situation still ended up fucked up? When you break down those decision makers, you have three white people--the mayor and two police officers; and three minorities--the black chief of police and one police officer, and an Asian police officer. You've got your "rainbow" representation on that very case, and yet George Floyd still ended up dead with a knee on his neck. Here, the minorities are over-represented on a per capita basis and there is no change in the end result.
My point in the thread about the Seattle black man arrested for running over a few white black lives women is that none of this superficial racial diversity seems to make any material difference whatsoever. A bunch of liberal white women get themselves injured and one of themselves killed campaigning for Black Lives Matter, and a black man still ends up in jail. The media doesn't cover the racial angle of that story, because they do not see the irony of leftist politics. Your point would have been an interesting one 25 years ago, but from the circumstances surrounding George Floyd's death and the BLM and Antifa antics that followed, we have ample evidence to the contrary.
Tainari88 wrote:I will never understand what motivates such love of materialistic gain, greed and also selfish shit. For me that causes the world pain, suffering and untold harm. The naked pursuit of money and power and always at the expense of the weak.
I work in cloud computing. We don't crush poor people to dust in my line of work. That's a 19th and maybe early 20th Century Marxist narrative about industrialism. It doesn't make sense in other contexts. Who have I caused untold pain, suffering and harm?
Tainari88 wrote:The Republicans are repulsive with their class conscious bulllshit, fake Christianity, double standards of everything for the wealthy and nothing for the lower classes, being petty and bloated pieces of greedy trash.
They happen to give more to charity than most people, and are generally happier as well. Research Finds Conservatives Are More Happy, Generous, And Purposeful Than Liberals
Tainari88 wrote:I hope that party implodes and loses all party for at least half a century.
That already happened to them in the middle of the 20th Century, and mostly because their congressional membership is too worried about appearances and manners and doesn't stand up and fight against the political left.
Tainari88 wrote:Nothing worse than an arrogant dumb person.
Violent anti-social people are worse in my opinion.
Tainari88 wrote:For me they are that and also are causing harm with their warmongering pieces of shit.
The major party candidate with ties to the war mongers in this year's presidential race is Joe Biden. Trump ended up firing his few war mongers and not starting any new wars, which is refreshing.
Tainari88 wrote:The Democrats are not much different but they attempt to be 'inclusive'. Lol. Such idiots.
By having black police chiefs preside over the oppression of black people at the hands of the police?
Tainari88 wrote:Arrogant dummies are the Republicans and super ineffective. You keep shilling for them.
I used to be a Republican. How many times have I said that they are useless as tits on a bull? That's not a compliment or an endorsement by any stretch of the imagination.
Tainari88 wrote:It has a big flat wage stagnation problem
That Donald Trump has begun to address, as it is the result of illegal immigration, excessive legal immigration and free trade policies with countries like China.
Tainari88 wrote:it has an idea of foreign culture is a threat
Well, when the big flat wage stagnation problem you describe is further analyzed, it does boil down to foreigners pretty quickly.
Tainari88 wrote:Very non-artistic, non-creative, non-intellectual, anti-intellectual, very moronic on how it thinks about human culture.
Country, blues, jazz, zydeco, hip hop, rap, big band, etc.--America has a long tradition in musical arts. America also invented the phonograph, movies, and television--spreading its culture all around the world, and bringing much world culture into the United States too.
Tainari88 wrote:It is conformist and lacks strong traditions.
How can you conform if there are no strong traditions?
Tainari88 wrote:It is terribly commercial and ahistorical.
America is very commercial. It's not ahistorical. It's disconnected from the Old World's history. Yes, we do have people trying to pull down statues of historical figures they don't like, but that's a separate matter.
Tainari88 wrote:You are surprisingly ahistorical too BJ. You never study African American history much.
If it interests me, I do. I studied up a bit before going to New Orleans for the first time. Generally, a lot of my cultural studies co-incide with travel.
Tainari88 wrote:You probably never studied Native American history, and many others....only what you identify with?
My father was a patron of Native American art. He frequently wore a turquoise belt and matching necktie made by Native American, Charles Loloma. My uncle, my father's twin brother, still wears it every day.
Tainari88 wrote:You are not a man who likes to stretch at all.
Now you have me laughing out loud. People always ask me how I learned to do what I do. On the bleeding edge of technology, there aren't a lot of predecessors. People have read my manuals and made countless presentations, making themselves look good without crediting me. I work with one guy who even used my work as a foundation for his masters degree thesis, and he used that to write a book. When I started getting bored with working on mass storage, I machine translated an architecture guide from English to German; that's when my bosses found a new role for me in telco-based cloud computing.
Tainari88 wrote:It leads to calcified thoughts without imagination about the future or the present and lack of flexibility.
Uh... I'm working on 5G cloud computing technology. It's pretty much all about the future. In fact, much of the paper I'm currently writing involves disaggregating services in monolithic controller nodes, including addressing some of the problems of hyperconvergence, like the lack of flexibility it creates in the name of cost savings. However, it's all about bits and bites. I guess there's not enough corazon in computers for you.
Tainari88 wrote:I better stop. It is not pleasant for me to think of you being with that mentality.
Indeed. So much of this is a product of your imagination anyway.
Tainari88 wrote:The corporations have been running the state in the USA. The corporations rule the government in the USA. That is not the case in other nations BJ.
Somehow, I don't think Donald Trump was or is their first pick. It's nice to know that corporations aren't ruling Japan, Germany, France, the UK, etc. Imagine how dull it would be if Pemex, Groupo Carso, Bimbo, Femsa and others ruled Mexico. Good to know that's not happening...
Tainari88 wrote:You see it now. The state trying to respond when they had sold out to the corporations a long time ago and find it hard to get the antibiotics, the needed masks, etc. The corporations rule. Period.
I've been railing against them for over a decade.
Tainari88 wrote:I will never buy your theories of it is just the Democrats.
The Democrats are worse than the Republicans--much more corrupt. It's fun to point out all their crap. Black Lives Matter. Please. Who is causing black people so many problems? Who doesn't care when black people are killing and getting killed? Who is ginning up these latest riots where black people are getting killed and their businesses burned? It's Democrats.
Tainari88 wrote:American education SUCKS. They suck at educating people.
Who runs it? Almost exclusively Democrats.
Tainari88 wrote:"At least there is a sellout saying I can get some help paying my light bill and an Obama phone." Score.
Bingo. Vote buying.
Tainari88 wrote:Since you don't give a fuck about popular votes you argue for it is good. It is not good BJ.
For a country this size, it is good. It gives all areas of the country a stake in its governance--incorporated areas, that is, not Puerto Rico.
Tainari88 wrote:How long will it take for the American electorate to gain an economic class consciousness?
Well, it may be awhile since the richest people in America are primarily Democrats--or at least they purport to be.
Tainari88 wrote:Did you ever study Latin Blackjack?
Not much. I like the Carmina Burana, so I picked around with that a bit.
Tainari88 wrote:Small minds. Big egos. Forgotten.
I'm sure Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, Cicero, Crassus, Marcus Aurelius, Flavius Josephus, Livy and the lot are just devastated by this news.
Tainari88 wrote:You have a very hard time accepting that the Civil Rights movement were African Americans organizing along with civic minded Americans who believed in social justice getting together, going to jail en masse and fighting for their rights to overturn racism.
The racism of the Jim Crow South (created and controlled by Democrats).
Tainari88 wrote:Republicans are not anti-racists.
They were founded on the abolition of slavery. They passed the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. They passed the Civil Rights Act of 1866. They sent troops to Little Rock, AR to desegregate the schools under Eisenhower. They wrote the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Tainari88 wrote:Look at what happened to that Johnson man and the pressure he was under in 1962?
He was Vice President in 1962.
Tainari88 wrote:I think anyone backing capitalism like you do and loving class conscious stuff is racist and that includes you.
You gain a lot from capitalism. You wouldn't be conversing with me if it weren't for many devices created by capitalist enterprises.
Tainari88 wrote:You have dropped a lot of lines that only racists say Relampaguito.
As you may have guessed, I'm not interested in the current political vernacular, its goals, nor its taboos. So I have no problem talking about race, racism, etc.
Tainari88 wrote:Being a racist is a badge of honor you wear in your weary fight against other white liberal racists in the Democratic party.
Not really. I just see people having evolved just like other species, and I think it does play a role in human behavior. So I don't think it can be stamped out within humans. It can be policed against in larger social groups, but that's about it. Sure, I've read Jared Diamond, but he finished his most important work before the human genome was fully decoded, before it became clear that certain genes appear to have major influence on anti-social behavior, that Eurasians have a small percentage of Neanderthal DNA, but sub-Saharan Africans do not and so on. You, on the contrary, seem to have a very big problem even talking about it.
Tainari88 wrote:No, you got issues with the Irishman @Special Olympian. He is a white man from your same ethnicity (half of it) and you don't like him at all. Why?
He's not really capable of extended discussions on ideas with people he disagrees with. He likes to name call and to troll people, and when he's trolled in return he flips out and gets @noemon to card people for the types of things he does himself. I don't care about the tattletale antics. As I've said, I think the carding punishments here are kind of comical. I just think if you dish it out, you ought to be able to take it. He can't take it. So he comes across as lame to me.
Tainari88 wrote:The Guamanian rep tells you what the racist language was like for justifying denying the vote:
That's just someone who doesn't understand law reading all sorts of things into it that it doesn't say or mean. In my line of work, we're now having to remove terms like "master" and "slave" to be more "inclusive." We even have people who think that "blacklist" and "whitelist" are racist terms. My boss is Irish and lives in Ireland, as are many of my team mates. They are puzzled by the latter constructs, because "blacklist" was about identifying communists, labor organizers, etc. You don't need a list to identify who is black. It's readily apparent. Well... it's readily apparent to human beings right up until you hit the Millennial generation, when suddenly everyone got incredibly stupid. I want to remove "master", because it has conflicting uses. So in the context of high availability, I think we should use the term "primary". In the context of regulating behavior, I think we should use the term "controller" or "control plane." That anyone starts thinking about a 19th Century cotton planter relying on slave labor and feels uncomfortable working on the system is just patently ridiculous. People with that sort of emotional instability should just find themselves somewhere else. The SJWs are now going after builders to stop calling the homeowner's bedroom the "master" bedroom. I think if they are going to do this, then all colleges and universities should stop offering Masters degrees, because that's racist. I don't sweat this stuff, Tainari88. I roll with the punches. However, people who think this stuff is serious end up on a notional blacklist that identifies them as "idiots" whether they realize this or not.
Tainari88 wrote:Thurmond the asshole racist from the Republican party creating problems(is he a Democrat with his racist old fuck self? No, he is a Republican.
He was one of VERY FEW segregationist Democrats that became a Republican.
Tainari88 wrote:Am I surprised? No.
Are you surprised to learn that he was an old school Democrat, and ran for president against Harry Truman on the Dixiecrat segregationist ticket protesting Truman's reversal of Woodrow Wilson's order segregating the military? Generally, when you find a devout racist like that, you're looking at a Democrat.
Tainari88 wrote:Because only Anglos understand the mysterious inner workings of democracy. A concept rooted in Rome and Greece.
Ok. Let's be clear though. John Oliver himself doesn't know shit about the English common law and what distinguishes it from Roman law that governs much of Europe.
Tainari88 wrote:Are you being a fool and denying the legal codes now of what is written into law to justify the lack of full and legal human being a complete human being equal under the law? No, Blackjack, you keep living in denial where the colorism and crazy ideas about if Africans were considered property or not?
I'm just wondering whether you think the constitution really considered black people to be only 3/5ths of a human being or not. Of course they were considered chattel property. As I added, so were women and children.
Tainari88 wrote:...and until the Black people started a hard pressure campaign after the end of WWII, change was not happening...
Actually, the Republicans had been pushing it for over a century. The driving force wasn't blacks pressuring. It was white elites concerned that the communist party was infiltrating blacks to create a fifth column in the US. That's why they were cool with Martin Luther King, Jr. until he started talking about economics. He didn't get shot in 1963. He got shot in 1968.
Tainari88 wrote:I would never back anyone who would harm you BJ.
By your definition of harm. I'm pretty sure communists would gladly avail themselves of all my property with attendant violent force.
Tainari88 wrote:I have another set of values than yours and will die with those intact.
That could be construed as inflexibility...
Tainari88 wrote:You kiss his ass. I never will.
I just like that the people in Washington who don't like him have to kiss his ass. That's my revenge. It would be even funnier if Kanye West were president.
Tainari88 wrote:Blackjack21 He is deeply immoral, unethical, slimy and greedy and a pathological liar.
That's most people at that level of power. I don't need to like the people in power. I just need their policies to work for me.
Tainari88 wrote:Be fair to them. They are not as bad as Trump. LOL.
You are dwelling on pointless stuff. What matters, unless you are in direct contact with these people, is policies. Biden may be a lot more folksy than Trump, but he literally wrote the legislation that put millions of people (mostly blacks) in prison. Trump may be crass, crude, irritating, maddening, and worse, but he literally turned that situation around. That's substance over style.
Tainari88 wrote:But somehow you have more right to being an American than a Mexican does? Whatever. I don't believe it.
She immigrated legally. A lot of Mexicans have not. Legal migrants from Mexico have the same right to be in the United States as anyone else does.
Tainari88 wrote:You somehow identify with Trump?
I don't identify with Trump. I understand why he was elected, and why he stands a very good chance of being re-elected.
Tainari88 wrote:You will never be about equality or justice.
I will never be about social justice. Equality before the law isn't equality of result. You are about "From each according to their ability," which ultimately means you think you have the right to take from people the things they create for themselves. "To each according to their needs," throwing them a scrap back of what they produced. In that respect, communism sounds like the ultimate expression of capitalism, where the communists elites end up hoarding over a mass of wealth they seized from their most productive citizens, while leaving people with subsistence. I prefer prosperity, and I will not apologize for that.
"Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things. "
-- Joe Biden