Hindsite wrote:I believe you are exactly right on all points. And that is just getting started. I understand Trump wants six debates, but Biden has only said he would do three.
I think three is fine, and one VP debate.
Hindsite wrote:Now I bet his campaign is trying to figure out a way to get out of any debates.
I'm sure that's what they're hoping. Biden's debates in the primaries were lackluster at best. Maybe his condition has gotten worse. That's not clear to me yet, but if he put on performances like he did in the primaries, I don't think he'd fare well against Trump. That much is obvious.
Hindsite wrote:This is the whole point of of this call by jimjam to cancel Presidential debates.
@jimjam is just parroting what Thomas Friedman said in an op-ed in the New York Times. As we all know now, the media and the DNC coordinate their moves. So Friedman didn't write this out of the blue. He wrote it at the direction of the DNC. So they either want out of the debates, or they want a format where the "moderators" can criticize Trump the whole time.
Hindsite wrote:The Dems are scared Biden will make too many so-called gaffes because of his dementia.
Biden has always been one to put his foot in his mouth. The dementia is just making it worse. If it's lewy body dementia, maybe they're concerned that he'll act out. For example, he's confronted voters and called them full of shit, damn liar, dog-faced pony soldier and stuff. In front of an audience of 20M+ people, that's going to be an issue. Frankly, this is getting weirder than the Hillary Clinton campaign, as Biden seems to leave his house less than I do, and I pretty much only go to the store or to my houseboat. He's running for president.
Code Rood wrote:People with a lick of common sense don't really watch this theatre filled with empty slogans and promises anyhow.
They usually draw a good 20M people, sometimes more.
Code Rood wrote:Intelligent people take a peak behind the curtain to see who is pulling the strings here.
Intelligent people have already made up their minds. It's people who are of a more visceral disposition, whose feelings and impressions inform their thoughts as much as the other way around, that are swayable.
jimjam wrote:This was not a serious "debate" of issues. It fell into the realm that Obese Donald specializes in …… entertainment for morons.
For you, it wasn't. For evangelical voters, they got to hear Hillary defend partial birth abortion. That's not even a controversial topic for you, but it's a life and death issue and a deeply religious and spiritual issue for a lot of voters.
Finfinder wrote:This is just the excuse they have been waiting for, as they know they have a complete shit candidate for the second time in a row.
Well, Trump probably remembers more of what Biden said during the primaries than Biden. That gives Trump a tactical advantage and he can make Biden look like a liar or a fool over the long run by running ads about what he said before and then what he denied saying, changed what he said, or whatever bullshit he comes up with. A politician on his feet can do this type of thing well. Biden has seen better days.
XogGyux wrote:Even with Clinton's numerous character flaws about 2M more Americans supporter her than bunker bitch .
Will you be laughing out loud if Biden runs up the score in California by millions of votes, but still loses to Trump?
XogGyux wrote:Simply put, there is nothing to gain for Biden, strategically I don't see a point for him to do so.
That's a tacit admission that Biden cannot land a punch on Trump in a debate.
JohnRawls wrote:The only thing that Biden needs to do durring those debates is just say some basic things that everyone knows while Trump will just rant on like Trump usually rants on.
You have to understand swing voters and single-issue voters. Biden has come out for seizing people's AR-15s, for example. Trump can simply say that's what Biden is for, and Biden can either respond or not. For a single-issue voter on the second amendment, it will make a difference. For a single issue voter on abortion, it's a similar issue. That hurt Hillary Clinton a lot more than the establishment understands, because they do not take abortion seriously at all. So they do not understand that many people were absolutely horrified to hear Hillary Clinton defend partial birth abortion.
Beren wrote:Having debates favours Trump simply because Biden leads in the polls and good debate performances could help him change that.
That's conventional wisdom. Biden is more or less in hiding. Generic candidates do better against definitive candidates in polling. Once you put people down to one policy or another, the polls shift. Everyone knows where Trump stands. Biden is a bit of a mystery, because a lot of voters do not pay attention during the primaries.
Beren wrote:People talk like debates are decisive, although they're not, and Trump's appearance in televised debates will rile up his fans the same as his haters, regardless of Biden's performance.
Debates don't move party loyalists. They move independent and undecided voters. That's actually the largest voting bloc in the United States now.
Godstud wrote:It is very hard to fake voting by mail, and the penalties are excessive and are an exceptional deterrent(up to 5 years sentence).
What if they come in from China or Russia (gulp)?
Godstud wrote:The real fact of the matter is that you, and Trump, both know that the more people who vote, the less likely Trump will be elected.
That's conventional wisdom too. Trump turned out a lot of voters who had given up on politics--people who hadn't voted in years. That's why he was able to collapse the so-called blue wall. Yet, Hillary--unless you think it was voter fraud--did a fantastic job in places like California. The more people who vote that were disillusioned until Trump came along and raised their spirits, the more likely Trump is to win. Presidential elections are not popular elections. You have to win the electoral college.
Heisenberg wrote:Couldn't disagree more with the OP. The presidential debates are literally the only thing I actually want to see in this disaster of an election.
They are telegraphing their fears. Otherwise, they'd be having you believe that after watching a full season of baseball or football, they've decided to pass on the World Series or the Super Bowl. Not a chance.
"Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things. "
-- Joe Biden