Ingliz wrote:Was this deeper reading a product of Reagan's the Contras are cuddly - "53 cents per day supports a freedom fighter" - Office of Public Diplomacy for Latin America and the Caribbean, by any chance?
Nope. The Sandinistas basically took power and then took land from previous landowners with no just compensation. So cloud title is a big problem in Nicaragua. That type of political corruption kills foreign direct investment, and is part of why totalitarian regimes leave their countries impoverished.
Tainari88 wrote:Crushing the elite and the ones controlling international trade, banks and powerful interests are basically far Left things BJ.
Yeah, Biden isn't going to do that. Even Elizabeth Warren wouldn't do much.
Tainari88 wrote:Why do you think I have not read the history of white trash in the USA? I have extensively.
Well, you talk to me like I'm completely ignorant of history and generalize about "white people" burning down black neighborhoods in Tulsa. So you are educated, but you just like to paint with a broad brush and omit the history of the Democrats when debating me, huh?
Tainari88 wrote:That means you were part of the mainstream for a very long time.
Yes, I was and am. I don't think the Democrats or Republicans are particularly mainstream anymore. They've lost the middle.
Tainari88 wrote:Again, over 60% of the USA population makes 40k or less a year in income. Those people's concerns you have not worked out yet. I find that deficient.
They are figuring out the hard way that they voted in the people who have declared them the new N-word: non-essential. However, many of them voted for Trump on the matters of trade tariffs and illegal aliens. Nobody in the establishment has decided to take up that mantle to challenge Trump, so Trump has cornered the market on popular opinions among working people.
Tainari88 wrote:It is not good for thinking the society is going to stabilize with that Biden winning.
It will get worse if Biden wins. He's pro-China and pro-open borders. He's even for giving illegal aliens health care coverage at taxpayer's expense. Do you understand why Democrats are begging him not to debate Trump?
Tainari88 wrote:Are you seriously trying to say to me BJ? That Trump is the same as some white trash person with no money in the bank?
No. I'm saying that's how the establishment sees him. You can't see this, because you see Trump as the establishment. Commoners don't get to be president unless the establishment says so--until Trump. Think about it. When has their ever been a US president that didn't have an earlier career in politics or the military? Never. Trump IS different from every other president who preceded him in that important context. It doesn't matter how hard you study if you choose to remain ignorant.
Tainari88 wrote:Don't even attempt to sell Trump to me as a man with scruples BJ. He is a man with nothing but his own narcissism and self interested BS to peddle.
Again, choosing to remain ignorant is a choice. I'm not suggesting you like Trump. I'm suggesting you weigh him on the merits. How many times did Barack Obama stop a drone strike, because he thought the use of force was disproportionate? Obama seemed to like the distance of stand-off attacks. Bombers never get blood on their hands. Yet, Trump weighed the moral algebra of how many people would die versus how many people died when Iran shot down a US drone (zero). Again, I'm not suggesting you like Trump. I'm suggesting you look at him relative to his viable political counterparts (to the extent that you consider Biden viable)--and not your fantasy ideal that some American version of Jose Mujica is going to come along in 2020.
Tainari88 wrote:They are pressuring the neoliberals in the Democratic party.
Yes. Do you remember the first person on PoFo to post about AOC? It was me. To you and your idealistic views it was a triumph of leftist ideals. To me and my more cynical view, it was a defeat for the establishment. I'm thrilled to see Eliot Engel go down in AOC's neighboring district. I hope in 2022, they will defeat Jerry Nadler next.
Tainari88 wrote: I am used to losing.
I'm a Raider fan. I share your experience.
Tainari88 wrote:Don't like either of them.
Oh, but they fit your pre-conditions so nicely: broken homes, but smart, hard working, did well in school and got into big name universities... All you could ever want, except that they weren't socialists.
Tainari88 wrote:Then why are there people who are socialist running human governments? They exist. It works very realistically despite the Right wanting to kill it all the time. It keeps coming back. Why? Because it is part of human nature.
People are hard wired for religion and hope is the most powerful emotion. It's easy to manipulate people who embrace emotion over reason.
Sivad wrote:I remember when all the retards would call me a conspiracy theorist for talking about elite pedophile blackmail rings.
Yeah, I don't think "conspiracy theories" are automatically unhinged or invalid. Democratic republics are inherently conspiracies in that it takes two or more people acting together to get things done.
"I got to the Senate 180 years ago."
-- Joe Biden